DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
You're.
Hope this helps.
What would you like to debate?
Sure we can.
This is exactly how TonyQ talks......
Vote NO Explained
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Hope this helps.
mikejonesjr
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You sound like someone trying to sell the contact. It's sucks for current pters, and saying well you can go full-time doesn't solve that. The no votes will show that
LagunaBrown
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Ok first your said it sucked because of the raises to new hires and I answered full time jobs are available to them. N
ow why else does it suck for part timers
LagunaBrown
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STRIKE STRIKE
Don't you have some Forrest fires to put out?
mikejonesjr
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So again they are only giving catch up raises to employees that are between new and 2 or 3 years in basically which screws many for their time they already put in. 2nd tear drivers will eventually take work away from pters specifically OT. Language changed to allow pters to be discharged from electronics. I'm sure their is more. The absolute least they can do is offer a catch up raise if they want a yes vote from more pters, but that's fine. It will just be voted down
They aren't covered under article 37
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
Because it's easy to sellout people in a job that doesn't exist yet, so they didn't even bother negotiating good language for them.
MangoMango
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I was on the fence about this contract. @LagunaBrown helped me decide because he has posted facts, not opinions.
Oh I get it. I was wanting to hear Tony Q or Leguna's reason.
LagunaBrown
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Yes that is true I can’t tell why but I can tell you that language already exists! Think about it new hire RPCD’s last contract did not Have 9.5 rights for 4 years either now they all can be on the list automatically. Also we have had two tier “cover drivers” since 1997 strike that already dont have protections like 9.5, excessive OT, or 8 hour requests either but they only make part time pension. The 22.4 is actually an upgrade to that job because they get Full time pension. The cover drivers also get red circled at 75% of top Driver rate after 6 months and carry their progression and rate (which is higher than 22.4 starting progression rate) with them to either 22.4 or RPCD position when seniority allows. You see in some areas it’s good and people will vote yes which people refuse to recognize while other areas do not have these situations so it’s understanable the would vote no.
LagunaBrown
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Just be because you guys make jokes and put emojis don’t change the facts I just told you.
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
Wrong.
So we should double down on the garbage, smh.
The company is counting on us being divided and screwing each other over, and the union is letting it happen.
For pensions you think?
LagunaBrown
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ARticle 37 NMA
Employees within the full-time driver classification shall be eligible for the protection of this Section provided: (1) the employee covers a route for a full week; (2) the employee bids or is assigned to cover a route for a full week but is prevented from completing that bid or assignment due to reassignment by the Employer; or (3) an employee with four (4) years of seniority as a full-time package driver.
Employees within the full-time driver classification shall be eligible for the protection of this Section provided: (1) the employee covers a route for a full week; (2) the employee bids or is assigned to cover a route for a full week but is prevented from completing that bid or assignment due to reassignment by the Employer; or (3) an employee with four (4) years of seniority as a full-time package driver.
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
Is this your way of admitting you're wrong?
LagunaBrown
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First off we already have that language so it already exists! Pension contributions at $129,000 for the life contract is the highest it has ever been for a full timer. How is that bad
LagunaBrown
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Dude you totally deleted it. That is weak! I posted ALL the language and the 4 year in red
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