What It Will Take for Us to Trust AI

FrigidFTSup

Resident Suit
That's because you losers can't get your stuff into Louisville on time. Snowball effect
They told us a couple weeks ago if we could pull our air pull time back 10 minutes the air network would be all fixed.

It worked. For 4 days. I guess they said screw it this week, too much effort.
 

dudebro

Well-Known Member
That's because you losers can't get your stuff into Louisville on time. Snowball effect

It's really because we stuff as much as we can into our technological jewel in KY, and don't want to hear about paying for additional flights in an out of RFD, which is much less capable.

Also, we've convinced everybody to build warehouses all around the air hub to take advantage of our flights, so we can't fly out of anywhere else so easily.
 

Turdferguson

Just a turd
It's really because we stuff as much as we can into our technological jewel in KY, and don't want to hear about paying for additional flights in an out of RFD, which is much less capable.

Also, we've convinced everybody to build warehouses all around the air hub to take advantage of our flights, so we can't fly out of anywhere else so easily.
Nope
@FrigidFTSup fault, he just admitted it.
TTKU
 

dudebro

Well-Known Member
They told us a couple weeks ago if we could pull our air pull time back 10 minutes the air network would be all fixed.

It worked. For 4 days. I guess they said screw it this week, too much effort.

It DOES work, but then, everybody goes back to thinking if I just hold MY plane 10 min, it makes no difference to that GREAT BIG air network.

And they're right and wrong at the same time, because EVERYBODY thinking that and acting accordingly, is the problem.
 

FrigidFTSup

Resident Suit
It's really because we stuff as much as we can into our technological jewel in KY, and don't want to hear about paying for additional flights in an out of RFD, which is much less capable.

Also, we've convinced everybody to build warehouses all around the air hub to take advantage of our flights, so we can't fly out of anywhere else so easily.
Our RFD flight is always on time. Louisville, forget about it. Would be amazing if they could build up RFD as a reliever hub.
 

dudebro

Well-Known Member
Our RFD flight is always on time. Louisville, forget about it. Would be amazing if they could build up RFD as a reliever hub.

They'd have to build it up a lot, because SDF will make every little preload and allow your airport to bypass everything and save time.

RFD, on the other hand, will mix everything together that goes to your airport and force them to sort it down (PPH is on my QPR, baby!).

By the time all the shuttles leave - they're as late as your trailers with air containers are.
 

FrigidFTSup

Resident Suit
It DOES work, but then, everybody goes back to thinking if I just hold MY plane 10 min, it makes no difference to that GREAT BIG air network.

And they're right and wrong at the same time, because EVERYBODY thinking that and acting accordingly, is the problem.
We were told today the excuse this week is there is just too much volume, not flight arrival times. It's a new excuse every week. The problem is infrastructure.

It's the same thing over and over with so many of our issues. Someone made a promise something could be done 15 years ago, but are too afraid to admit we can't do it now even though volume has exploded.
 

Turdferguson

Just a turd
They'd have to build it up a lot, because SDF will make every little preload and allow your airport to bypass everything and save time.

RFD, on the other hand, will mix everything together that goes to your airport and force them to sort it down (PPH is on my QPR, baby!).

By the time all the shuttles leave - they're as late as your trailers with air containers are.

We were told today the excuse this week is there is just too much volume, not flight arrival times. It's a new excuse every week. The problem is infrastructure.

It's the same thing over and over with so many of our issues. Someone made a promise something could be done 15 years ago, but are too afraid to admit we can't do it now even though volume has exploded.
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dudebro

Well-Known Member
We're in a gray zone. If we executed better, there wouldn't be an infrastructure problem, but we don't, so there is.

Every day there's a report about how many air packages planned for RFD and PHL scanned before 8:30pm (when everybody on the EC had a choice) end up in SDF. Every day some knucklehead on a local sort will mix RFD into SDF because it's easy, they can't get misloads, and 80 pieces don't matter, and they save 27 seconds off the payroll. But they add up over 1,000+ US sites.

So when we want to spend 1M a year on a new flight, we have to ask, well, what are the alternatives. And if the alternatives are if we'd sorted the packages right we'd be OK, the $1M is a tough ask.

The execution issue could be one of those little things that help drive the move to automation. You just can't convince some ppl about the bigger picture, because many of them wouldn't give af.
 

FrigidFTSup

Resident Suit
Every day some knucklehead on a local sort will mix RFD into SDF because it's easy, they can't get misloads, and 80 pieces don't matter, and they save 27 seconds off the payroll. But they add up over 1,000+ US sites.
You ever think they may do that because they're afraid of the flogging that may come if they don't make service on it?

Air is important, and it should absolutely be a hot topic. But everyone from local management to the district screams about getting it out ASAP. No crap that stuff is going to go in the wrong spot. There is no incentive to make it in the right can because it's going to get there either way and you got all the air out.
 

dudebro

Well-Known Member
You ever think they may do that because they're afraid of the flogging that may come if they don't make service on it?

Air is important, and it should absolutely be a hot topic. But everyone from local management to the district screams about getting it out ASAP. No crap that stuff is going to go in the wrong spot. There is no incentive to make it in the right can because it's going to get there either way and you got all the air out.

You're right about that. We get exactly what we ask for. But that doesn't make it any less true. That last post wasn't an indictment of the hourly workforce, it was really on us.
 
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