What Management won't tell you...

AlphaMikeBravo

Well-Known Member
Your welcome...

Contrary to popular belief, there are some good supervisors here at Big Brown. Here are a few tips that will help drivers understand why we do what we do and hopefully, help the younger drivers that are in it for the long haul.


1: Just like some groups of teamsters are tight knit, management is the same way, like a fraternity. Yes we do have squabbles amongst our members and may have an occasional backstabbing every once in a while, but understand this, if it ever came down to one of our own vs a teamster losing their job, we will stand behind the supervisor 100%, even if he/she is a total :censored2:.


2: Just put in an honest days work and you'll never be on the radar. We understand all people are different and some work faster or slower than others, just don't deliberately milk the clock. Keeping a steady pace and working efficiently is what we are looking for.


3: The only real time you HAVE to be a runner gunner is during qualification. During this period, we expect you to work fast, and be safe, and be perfect with all your methods. Your qualification packet is your brochure, and in order for you to make it, we have to sell that brochure to upper management who is keeping a close eye on our activities, so do yourself a favor. If you want to qualify, come in super early, study that map, sort the truck when the shop steward is not looking, and for the love of God, have the 5 seeing habits, 10 point commentary, 5 rules of backing, 8 keys to lifting/lowering, and 5 keys to preventing slips and falls committed to memory. Another thing, and we will only say this once...NO LATE AIR! Don't try and get fancy and look for the ground that's on the same stop. Do yourself a favor and come back and deliver to the location again if you have to. The time is counted anyway. We need you to be perfect!


4: Upon qualifying: No supervisor in his right mind will tell you this but when we teach you a new route, don't take short cuts and burn up the route! Short term it does look good for our numbers, but long term you are digging your own grave. Remember, follow the methods with a STEADY pace that's comfortable for you. Keep that steady pace constant, on every single route you learn. If you do this, once you have mastered the route you will find that over time you will sometimes be at or close to scratch or if the load/dispatch was bad you'll be over maybe by .5 to .75 hrs with 1 to 1.5 hours over being a bad day which we understand happens once in a while. You see, when you burn up a route, the manager who is above me sees that on a report and immediately asks “Why didn't you give him/her more work?” Ever wonder why Orion has you jumping around at times? Its because the initial proposed solution had you coming in too soon, so we had to “tweak” it a little bit to add more miles. More miles = more time, so it looks like a full day. So do yourself and us a favor, 1) try to run Orion in sections with less than 10 breakoffs per 100 stops (90% trace) and 2) if you are burning up the route by 1-2 hours under, you are taking too many shortcuts. You will look good on paper, but dispatch will undergo interrogation and guaranteed you will get loaded up even more over time. Play the game and work “safe”.


5: Yes, we do know that there are just some routes that are near impossible to scratch. There are many factors that affect this...ie: Previously burnt up by a runner who took too many shortcuts so we had to load up the route, Heavy metro areas where traffic is unpredictable, heavy loads…. We know this but we will never openly admit it. Again just put in an honest effort and if you are ever questioned on performance, cover yourself and have your reasons ready in case you are asked about it. Don't take it personally, just play the game. If the Center Manager is a stand up guy, he will understand, and if he is a good center manager, he will try to fix things a little at a time. Again, just be honest and upfront about problems you may encounter.


6: Some center manager’s and ORS’ are complete :censored2:bags. CYA! Don't stress if a supervisor has it out for you. Supervisory positions are like revolving doors. File grievances when you have to, and eventually upper management will get in the mood to play musical chairs and eventually, that supervisor will be somewhere else. As long as you are not blatantly stealing, it is impossible to fire you.


7: Best advice I ever got. Keep your mouth shut (don't complain), work safe, give an honest effort. Keep doing this and you'll see that it just gets easier as time goes on.
 

burrheadd

KING Of GIFS
Your welcome...

Contrary to popular belief, there are some good supervisors here at Big Brown. Here are a few tips that will help drivers understand why we do what we do and hopefully, help the younger drivers that are in it for the long haul.


1: Just like some groups of teamsters are tight knit, management is the same way, like a fraternity. Yes we do have squabbles amongst our members and may have an occasional backstabbing every once in a while, but understand this, if it ever came down to one of our own vs a teamster losing their job, we will stand behind the supervisor 100%, even if he/she is a total :censored2:.


2: Just put in an honest days work and you'll never be on the radar. We understand all people are different and some work faster or slower than others, just don't deliberately milk the clock. Keeping a steady pace and working efficiently is what we are looking for.


3: The only real time you HAVE to be a runner gunner is during qualification. During this period, we expect you to work fast, and be safe, and be perfect with all your methods. Your qualification packet is your brochure, and in order for you to make it, we have to sell that brochure to upper management who is keeping a close eye on our activities, so do yourself a favor. If you want to qualify, come in super early, study that map, sort the truck when the shop steward is not looking, and for the love of God, have the 5 seeing habits, 10 point commentary, 5 rules of backing, 8 keys to lifting/lowering, and 5 keys to preventing slips and falls committed to memory. Another thing, and we will only say this once...NO LATE AIR! Don't try and get fancy and look for the ground that's on the same stop. Do yourself a favor and come back and deliver to the location again if you have to. The time is counted anyway. We need you to be perfect!


4: Upon qualifying: No supervisor in his right mind will tell you this but when we teach you a new route, don't take short cuts and burn up the route! Short term it does look good for our numbers, but long term you are digging your own grave. Remember, follow the methods with a STEADY pace that's comfortable for you. Keep that steady pace constant, on every single route you learn. If you do this, once you have mastered the route you will find that over time you will sometimes be at or close to scratch or if the load/dispatch was bad you'll be over maybe by .5 to .75 hrs with 1 to 1.5 hours over being a bad day which we understand happens once in a while. You see, when you burn up a route, the manager who is above me sees that on a report and immediately asks “Why didn't you give him/her more work?” Ever wonder why Orion has you jumping around at times? Its because the initial proposed solution had you coming in too soon, so we had to “tweak” it a little bit to add more miles. More miles = more time, so it looks like a full day. So do yourself and us a favor, 1) try to run Orion in sections with less than 10 breakoffs per 100 stops (90% trace) and 2) if you are burning up the route by 1-2 hours under, you are taking too many shortcuts. You will look good on paper, but dispatch will undergo interrogation and guaranteed you will get loaded up even more over time. Play the game and work “safe”.


5: Yes, we do know that there are just some routes that are near impossible to scratch. There are many factors that affect this...ie: Previously burnt up by a runner who took too many shortcuts so we had to load up the route, Heavy metro areas where traffic is unpredictable, heavy loads…. We know this but we will never openly admit it. Again just put in an honest effort and if you are ever questioned on performance, cover yourself and have your reasons ready in case you are asked about it. Don't take it personally, just play the game. If the Center Manager is a stand up guy, he will understand, and if he is a good center manager, he will try to fix things a little at a time. Again, just be honest and upfront about problems you may encounter.


6: Some center manager’s and ORS’ are complete :censored2:bags. CYA! Don't stress if a supervisor has it out for you. Supervisory positions are like revolving doors. File grievances when you have to, and eventually upper management will get in the mood to play musical chairs and eventually, that supervisor will be somewhere else. As long as you are not blatantly stealing, it is impossible to fire you.


7: Best advice I ever got. Keep your mouth shut (don't complain), work safe, give an honest effort. Keep doing this and you'll see that it just gets easier as time goes on.

Beat it @Barney
 

Wally

BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns
What the OP DOES TO THE EYES..
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1989

Well-Known Member
Your welcome...

Contrary to popular belief, there are some good supervisors here at Big Brown. Here are a few tips that will help drivers understand why we do what we do and hopefully, help the younger drivers that are in it for the long haul.


1: Just like some groups of teamsters are tight knit, management is the same way, like a fraternity. Yes we do have squabbles amongst our members and may have an occasional backstabbing every once in a while, but understand this, if it ever came down to one of our own vs a teamster losing their job, we will stand behind the supervisor 100%, even if he/she is a total :censored2:.


2: Just put in an honest days work and you'll never be on the radar. We understand all people are different and some work faster or slower than others, just don't deliberately milk the clock. Keeping a steady pace and working efficiently is what we are looking for.


3: The only real time you HAVE to be a runner gunner is during qualification. During this period, we expect you to work fast, and be safe, and be perfect with all your methods. Your qualification packet is your brochure, and in order for you to make it, we have to sell that brochure to upper management who is keeping a close eye on our activities, so do yourself a favor. If you want to qualify, come in super early, study that map, sort the truck when the shop steward is not looking, and for the love of God, have the 5 seeing habits, 10 point commentary, 5 rules of backing, 8 keys to lifting/lowering, and 5 keys to preventing slips and falls committed to memory. Another thing, and we will only say this once...NO LATE AIR! Don't try and get fancy and look for the ground that's on the same stop. Do yourself a favor and come back and deliver to the location again if you have to. The time is counted anyway. We need you to be perfect!


4: Upon qualifying: No supervisor in his right mind will tell you this but when we teach you a new route, don't take short cuts and burn up the route! Short term it does look good for our numbers, but long term you are digging your own grave. Remember, follow the methods with a STEADY pace that's comfortable for you. Keep that steady pace constant, on every single route you learn. If you do this, once you have mastered the route you will find that over time you will sometimes be at or close to scratch or if the load/dispatch was bad you'll be over maybe by .5 to .75 hrs with 1 to 1.5 hours over being a bad day which we understand happens once in a while. You see, when you burn up a route, the manager who is above me sees that on a report and immediately asks “Why didn't you give him/her more work?” Ever wonder why Orion has you jumping around at times? Its because the initial proposed solution had you coming in too soon, so we had to “tweak” it a little bit to add more miles. More miles = more time, so it looks like a full day. So do yourself and us a favor, 1) try to run Orion in sections with less than 10 breakoffs per 100 stops (90% trace) and 2) if you are burning up the route by 1-2 hours under, you are taking too many shortcuts. You will look good on paper, but dispatch will undergo interrogation and guaranteed you will get loaded up even more over time. Play the game and work “safe”.


5: Yes, we do know that there are just some routes that are near impossible to scratch. There are many factors that affect this...ie: Previously burnt up by a runner who took too many shortcuts so we had to load up the route, Heavy metro areas where traffic is unpredictable, heavy loads…. We know this but we will never openly admit it. Again just put in an honest effort and if you are ever questioned on performance, cover yourself and have your reasons ready in case you are asked about it. Don't take it personally, just play the game. If the Center Manager is a stand up guy, he will understand, and if he is a good center manager, he will try to fix things a little at a time. Again, just be honest and upfront about problems you may encounter.


6: Some center manager’s and ORS’ are complete :censored2:bags. CYA! Don't stress if a supervisor has it out for you. Supervisory positions are like revolving doors. File grievances when you have to, and eventually upper management will get in the mood to play musical chairs and eventually, that supervisor will be somewhere else. As long as you are not blatantly stealing, it is impossible to fire you.


7: Best advice I ever got. Keep your mouth shut (don't complain), work safe, give an honest effort. Keep doing this and you'll see that it just gets easier as time goes on.
Im curious as to when I’ll be taught a route? I like to get fancy, if I have late air, I’ll show improvement the following day. Besides I have to screw up somewhere so I can show improvement.
 

Heavy Package

Well-Known Member
What Management won't tell you...

1. Thank you for your hard work today
2. You're right about that issue
3. We have no authority over anything either
4. You are worth your pay and benefits because you are more productive and professional than any other delivery company
5. Great job taking care of that issue for us on road
6. We don't care about your health, family, time off, or safety
7. We know there is no way in hell we can do your job as good as you can

 

wayfair

swollen member
If you do this, once you have mastered the route you will find that over time you will sometimes be at or close to scratch or if the load/dispatch was bad you'll be over maybe by .5 to .75 hrs with 1 to 1.5 hours over being a bad day which we understand happens once in a while.

How can one "master" a route with ORION? LOL
 

Brown echo

If u are not alive than for sure truth is not real
Your welcome...

Contrary to popular belief, there are some good supervisors here at Big Brown. Here are a few tips that will help drivers understand why we do what we do and hopefully, help the younger drivers that are in it for the long haul.


1: Just like some groups of teamsters are tight knit, management is the same way, like a fraternity. Yes we do have squabbles amongst our members and may have an occasional backstabbing every once in a while, but understand this, if it ever came down to one of our own vs a teamster losing their job, we will stand behind the supervisor 100%, even if he/she is a total :censored2:.


2: Just put in an honest days work and you'll never be on the radar. We understand all people are different and some work faster or slower than others, just don't deliberately milk the clock. Keeping a steady pace and working efficiently is what we are looking for.


3: The only real time you HAVE to be a runner gunner is during qualification. During this period, we expect you to work fast, and be safe, and be perfect with all your methods. Your qualification packet is your brochure, and in order for you to make it, we have to sell that brochure to upper management who is keeping a close eye on our activities, so do yourself a favor. If you want to qualify, come in super early, study that map, sort the truck when the shop steward is not looking, and for the love of God, have the 5 seeing habits, 10 point commentary, 5 rules of backing, 8 keys to lifting/lowering, and 5 keys to preventing slips and falls committed to memory. Another thing, and we will only say this once...NO LATE AIR! Don't try and get fancy and look for the ground that's on the same stop. Do yourself a favor and come back and deliver to the location again if you have to. The time is counted anyway. We need you to be perfect!


4: Upon qualifying: No supervisor in his right mind will tell you this but when we teach you a new route, don't take short cuts and burn up the route! Short term it does look good for our numbers, but long term you are digging your own grave. Remember, follow the methods with a STEADY pace that's comfortable for you. Keep that steady pace constant, on every single route you learn. If you do this, once you have mastered the route you will find that over time you will sometimes be at or close to scratch or if the load/dispatch was bad you'll be over maybe by .5 to .75 hrs with 1 to 1.5 hours over being a bad day which we understand happens once in a while. You see, when you burn up a route, the manager who is above me sees that on a report and immediately asks “Why didn't you give him/her more work?” Ever wonder why Orion has you jumping around at times? Its because the initial proposed solution had you coming in too soon, so we had to “tweak” it a little bit to add more miles. More miles = more time, so it looks like a full day. So do yourself and us a favor, 1) try to run Orion in sections with less than 10 breakoffs per 100 stops (90% trace) and 2) if you are burning up the route by 1-2 hours under, you are taking too many shortcuts. You will look good on paper, but dispatch will undergo interrogation and guaranteed you will get loaded up even more over time. Play the game and work “safe”.


5: Yes, we do know that there are just some routes that are near impossible to scratch. There are many factors that affect this...ie: Previously burnt up by a runner who took too many shortcuts so we had to load up the route, Heavy metro areas where traffic is unpredictable, heavy loads…. We know this but we will never openly admit it. Again just put in an honest effort and if you are ever questioned on performance, cover yourself and have your reasons ready in case you are asked about it. Don't take it personally, just play the game. If the Center Manager is a stand up guy, he will understand, and if he is a good center manager, he will try to fix things a little at a time. Again, just be honest and upfront about problems you may encounter.


6: Some center manager’s and ORS’ are complete :censored2:bags. CYA! Don't stress if a supervisor has it out for you. Supervisory positions are like revolving doors. File grievances when you have to, and eventually upper management will get in the mood to play musical chairs and eventually, that supervisor will be somewhere else. As long as you are not blatantly stealing, it is impossible to fire you.


7: Best advice I ever got. Keep your mouth shut (don't complain), work safe, give an honest effort. Keep doing this and you'll see that it just gets easier as time goes on.
When will you learn '' when will you learn that your actions have consequences. How to win your Manager trust be the biggest scab, all the good means . How to win your supervisor trust, Run your lunch and let him some money since they get paid monthly. keep doing this and you''ll see that it just gets easier as time goes on.
 
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Bob11B

Well-Known Member
Mr Supervisor,

Will you please tell me why you message me To go help driverx to help him make 9.5 when I am only going to make it by ten minutes, myself? If I go over, I get yelled at or written up for some nonsense....no thanks.
 
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