By The Book
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If I remember correctly your on the 10 year plan. Did you ever sign up for new driver classes, etc.? Enjoy the money and get some rest. Those are wicked hours!
What would you do ?
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bleedinbrown58
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BakerMayfield2018
Fight the power.
Exactly! You hit the nail on the head. If our own members would just stand up for themselves , and enforce the contract things would be much better. But , sadly as you know , that is not how it is. I try my best to help inform members of there rights , but it is up to them if they want to stand up for themselves and deal with the management harassment and intimidation that will follow. And it will, and that is what our new contract was suppose to address , sadly it did not. And no , I am not the steward in my center , although many people wish I was.
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If the person who answers the door says " I (or we) dont want the package" it's refused.
If it's addressed to a specific person (like at a dorm room or residence occupied by more than one person) and the person that answers the door says "I dont want to sign for their package and they aren't home now" it's NI 1,2, or 3.
If they say "John isn't here but he said to refuse that package/delivery it's Refused.
I get paid by the hour and don't want to have to explain why I purposely sent someone's pkg back because the person it was addressed to was Not In and no one at that address said to send it back refused.
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By The Book
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If you were in my center I would ask my ba to appoint you. When you stand up for the members and treat everyone equal the members begin to trust you and at least have a better understanding of what they are entitled to. How many drivers do you have in your building approximately? How many full time stewards? I'm a steward and hopefully the members think I have their back. The contract you would think is easy to enforce but it's the gray area stuff that seems to be more of the problem. Off the clock work, working on vacation, switching vacations, coming off bids to drive other routes, etc. each issue seems to be different based on the circumstances. If you can always represent the driver/employee and sometimes they screw up,you need to tell them to take their lumps and own it.
By The Book
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Looks like a feeder sign up? If so is that what you want?
bleedinbrown58
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Sure
By The Book
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Definitely sign all bids you have an interest in. That way they check by seniority. Have they posted an annual utility driver list in your building for package drivers? If so would you sign it?
bleedinbrown58
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I have never heard the term "utility driver" off BC...what is it exactly?
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Would that be like a "switch hitter"?
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By The Book
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In our supplement and sort rider it says the company shall hire utility drivers. These drivers are part-time employees Who by seniority cover absentees, overflow work, etc. in our case they are our Saturday drivers who eventually get called up to full-time driving. Look in the contents of your contract book in the master, supplement, and sort rider if your local has these.lmk
By The Book
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Looks like local 804 has a full time helper position and a recently negotiated full time combination helper position. These can only be like 7% of the drivers. The combos can't reduce the number of full time helpers. There are full time positions here turned into helper jobs. Sad really.
upschuck
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Here, a utility driver is a FT driver who does not have a route. We probably have 20+ of them. I got lucky and got a route relatively quickly, within a couple years, but some have been that why for over 10 years. There are even a couple who like it. A utility driver has no guarantee of driving work from day to day.
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We call those drivers "unassigned" officially and in our supplement and "swing drivers" unofficially. They always have an 8 hour guarantee.
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By The Book
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Our unassigned drivers have an 8 hour guarantee, but no bid route. Our utility drivers go on road with sups usually to cover absentees. If a utility driver went out here on their own they wouldn't have the 8 hour guarantee.
upschuck
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Yours are guaranteed 8 hrs of driving? Ours can bump into building if laid off for a week.
