why hate off the street hires ?

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Then I guess we need to change it in the contract where they can hire 10/1 or 15/1....

We have centers that are unable to fill FT openings at the current 6:1.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

The OP had my respect until he started disparaging pkg car drivers.

 

[sailfish]

And I respect all my union brother and sisters who had to get fingerprinted and do a stupid handwriting analysis when they got hired

What is that for? I've never heard of such a thing.

 

[sailfish]

Driving a rig is not easy I will never forget my first blizzard in the middle of the night in Wyoming...driving in all types of weather for years not knowing if the unthinkable will happen rather than just sitting in a box truck dropping off packages in residential areas during the day. That is demanding and very stressful driving 5k miles every week risking your freedom and life if an accident was to happen all just to be able to support your family and yourself. Package delivery and handling is tough but what I've been through and many other drivers have been through on the road is a lot tougher but that's my opinion to each their own.

You had a point until you starting belittling package.

 

[bottomups]

Then I guess we need to change it in the contract where they can hire 10/1 or 15/1....

My center is trying to hire a bunch of package car drivers for T-S routes. No part-time workers are signing the bid sheets. Have to go to outside hires.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

What is that for? I've never heard of such a thing.

I did not have to do either of those two things when I was hired off the street back in 1989.

 

[oldngray]

What is that for? I've never heard of such a thing.

When I started they fingerprinted everyone and the handwriting sample was so they could catch people trying to steal packages when many labels were handwritten.

 

[Rick Ross]

Driving a rig is not easy I will never forget my first blizzard in the middle of the night in Wyoming...driving in all types of weather for years not knowing if the unthinkable will happen rather than just sitting in a box truck dropping off packages in residential areas during the day. That is demanding and very stressful driving 5k miles every week risking your freedom and life if an accident was to happen all just to be able to support your family and yourself. Package delivery and handling is tough but what I've been through and many other drivers have been through on the road is a lot tougher but that's my opinion to each their own.

What kind of super rig you were driving to drive 5k miles a week? You also mention risking freedom...Were you super trucking in Iran or somewhere else in the middle East?

Did you not have access to weather reports before taking a load through a blizzard in Wyoming?

Neither trucking or package is rocket science. I've done both and am currently in feeders.

 

[sailfish]

When I started they fingerprinted everyone and the handwriting sample was so they could catch people trying to steal packages when many labels were handwritten.

Never had to do that. Wouldn't have taken this job if I did.

 

[TearsInRain]

Driving a rig is not easy I will never forget my first blizzard in the middle of the night in Wyoming...driving in all types of weather for years not knowing if the unthinkable will happen. That is demanding and very stressful driving 5k miles every week risking your freedom and life

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE

 

[over9five]

We recently had to hire 3 Feeder drivers off the street because in this huge hub of over 200 package drivers, not one would come to Feeders.

P.S., I have no idea where most people started (P/T, of the street, whatever). Who cares?

 

[BigUnionGuy]

When I started they fingerprinted everyone and the handwriting sample was so they could catch people trying to steal packages when many labels were handwritten.

I remember the fingerprinting, not a handwriting sample.

What kind of super rig you were driving to drive 5k miles a week? You also mention risking freedom...Were you super trucking in Iran or somewhere else in the middle East?

5k a week is not possible.... unless you are running 2 log books ??

Neither trucking or package is rocket science. I've done both and am currently in feeders.

Yep.

Package is (obviously) more physical, and feeders is more detailed oriented.


But, making mistakes in feeders can have a much dire consequence.... especially with

accidents. (I mean crashes)



-Bug-

 

[BigUnionGuy]

We recently had to hire 3 Feeder drivers off the street because in this huge hub of over 200 package drivers, not one would come to Feeders.

In my Local, after exhausting the pkg car list, then 22.3 people can be considered before off the street.

Years ago.... they even allowed part-time employees a shot. That was hit or miss.



-Bug-

 

[BusterBrown31]

The OP had my respect until he started disparaging pkg car drivers.

I'm not disparaging anyone just stating some facts when I'm getting attacked from every angle I gotta let them know a couple things. Just because someone delivered packages doesn't make them any more qualified for driving the feeders than me..at the end of the day we're out here doing a job without the package cars feeders wouldn't exist and vise versa.

 

[burrheadd]

Ok but let's be honest you think package takes more skill and experience to do than driving a big rig ? I'm sorry to burst your bubble but anyone can be trained to become a package handler or delivery person it takes a certain person to put in his time OTR and rack up thousands maybe even millions miles under all types of stress. I'm not just a steering wheel holder I've put my time in on the road and that's what this job requires. It doesn't ask you how many packages have you lifted or delivered in the last 10 years.

Show up with that attitude
And see how far it gets you

 

[Rick Ross]

5k a week is not possible.... unless you are running 2 log books ??

5k miles is number a lot of teams shoot for each week. Running on paper and having a personal pharmacy would be needed to get close to that many miles by yourself.

Trucker Used Coke and Meth to Drive Non-Stop Cross Country

Has the OP even started? We have had part-timers with CDL's not pass their school and production weeks because of the 5 and 10. Many new drivers are also intimidated by how congested the hubs can be. Some of the yards are crazy...Hundreds of trucks inbounding in a few hours time and lots of tight spaces to build sets.

 

[Mr. Sir]

Ok but let's be honest you think package takes more skill and experience to do than driving a big rig ? I'm sorry to burst your bubble but anyone can be trained to become a package handler or delivery person it takes a certain person to put in his time OTR and rack up thousands maybe even millions miles under all types of stress. I'm not just a steering wheel holder I've put my time in on the road and that's what this job requires. It doesn't ask you how many packages have you lifted or delivered in the last 10 years.

Though you may be right that anyone can be trained to delivery boxes all day for quite a lot of money it's not the point. As mentioned, the majority of the drivers here spent several years making next to nothing humping cardboard in the hub in order to hump cardboard on the road making 3x as much money. Though u have the experience to "possibly" perform feeders better than the people coming from package car there's a certain level of respect you have to brothers who are several years in and still waiting for feeders. Coming off the street and immediately shunning the PC drivers will leave you being a Hub outcast.

 

[Over 70]

Driving a rig is not easy I will never forget my first blizzard in the middle of the night in Wyoming...driving in all types of weather for years not knowing if the unthinkable will happen rather than just sitting in a box truck dropping off packages in residential areas during the day. That is demanding and very stressful driving 5k miles every week risking your freedom and life if an accident was to happen all just to be able to support your family and yourself. Package delivery and handling is tough but what I've been through and many other drivers have been through on the road is a lot tougher but that's my opinion to each their own.

That reply is a good reason to be hated! Clueless!

 

[Over 70]

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE

+1 respect point for @TearsInRain haha

 

[Over 70]

I've got all your answers right here