UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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Yeah. Green Bay has that reputation. Even as an avid Bears fan (just threw up in my mouth) I've never been able to.hate the Packers. They're just classy.
He also said that the stadium was amazing.
Yeah. Green Bay has that reputation. Even as an avid Bears fan (just threw up in my mouth) I've never been able to.hate the Packers. They're just classy.
why is this a problem? thats exactly what americans should have been doing since at least the financial crisis, and even before.DRUMPF himself is undermining democracy and promoting civil disobedience...
Tom’s Take: Donald Trump advocates for civil disobedience during final presidential debate
what do you mean?Funny that's the same words hillary used recently but about Trump.
Go read the 2nd Amendment, we both have relatives going back who died for these rights. Go read it. Its checks and balances. All of history is screaming with examples of tyranny and oppressive governments and we had forefathers who had the foresite to put in this in the Constitution for our protection and defense against such things. When they start messing with it, it should be a red flag to all of us.
Today liberals are people who can't take care of themselves they want the government to be their parent. It will be a rude awakening for you the day you wake up and find the government is a drunk and abusive pederast who stole all your money and has you changed up in the basement, and not the infallable parent you thought they were. But then again maybe you were just predestined to be a sheep.
why is this a problem? thats exactly what americans should have been doing since at least the financial crisis, and even before.
why haven't you advocated for civil disobedience. im all for trump advocating for civil disobedience against a rigged election system
you'd have to elaborate bc u lost me.But youre the exception, and not the rule.
TOS.
George Bush won. Maybe the system is imperfect but it isn't rigged. Maybe the Florida recounts were less than entirely fair but the election wasn't "stolen".you'd have to elaborate bc u lost me.
tell me, do you think george bush won fairly, or is the election system rigged
i just used bush as an example because TOS hates bush.George Bush won. Maybe the system is imperfect but it isn't rigged. Maybe the Florida recounts were less than entirely fair but the election wasn't "stolen".
I know. But in general I'm saying I don't think elections are rigged. Imperfect with horribly flawed candidates but it could be worse.i just used bush as an example because TOS hates bush.
ok maybe poor word choice on my part. i guess you could think of rigged as having total control over who becomes president. its not THAT bad, but its pretty bad with the media, gerrymandering, electoral college, voter suppression and fraud, delegates, etc.I know. But in general I'm saying I don't think elections are rigged. Imperfect with horribly flawed candidates but it could be worse.
you'd have to elaborate bc u lost me.
tell me, do you think george bush won fairly, or is the election system rigged
ok maybe poor word choice on my part. i guess you could think of rigged as having total control over who becomes president. its not THAT bad, but its pretty bad with the media, gerrymandering, electoral college, voter suppression and fraud, delegates, etc.
you know they wanted hillary to win the dem nomination, and we probably know that they didnt want trump to win but he won.
Strange thing is that she was going to win, tampering or not. It's like the Patriots cheating to beat the Jets...why?ok maybe poor word choice on my part. i guess you could think of rigged as having total control over who becomes president. its not THAT bad, but its pretty bad with the media, gerrymandering, electoral college, voter suppression and fraud, delegates, etc.
you know they wanted hillary to win the dem nomination, and we probably know that they didnt want trump to win but he won.
last i heard she wouldn't have won were it not for all the BS and thats excluding no media coverage bernie gotStrange thing is that she was going to win, tampering or not. It's like the Patriots cheating to beat the Jets...why?
Ohio 2004, and a manipulated server in Chattanooga, Tn.I know. But in general I'm saying I don't think elections are rigged. Imperfect with horribly flawed candidates but it could be worse.
i left out presidential debate commission. your thoughts?The only election tampering that was attempted in this election, was all the right wing VOTER ID laws that ultimately got shot down by the supreme court.
VOTER suppression is all the right wing of this country have left.
There message, is a dead one, with only brain dead supporters left to hold it up.
TOS.
Again, definitely flawed and could likely be easily improved upon but one would need to beware of unintended consequences.Ohio 2004, and a manipulated server in Chattanooga, Tn.
Coincidentally the whisteblower who was set to testify in a case about that died in a plane crash......
Just sayin'.
Where'd you hear that? The party needs to move toward Bernie but they aren't there yet.last i heard she wouldn't have won were it not for all the BS and thats excluding no media coverage bernie got
Agreed.Again, definitely flawed and could likely be easily improved upon but one would need to beware of unintended consequences.
Exactly where does the second amendment suggest, imply or infer, that the amendment is to be used to ATTACK, CHANGE, OVERTHROW or REVERSE a democratic election?
Its amazing the lack of intelligence of people who THINK they got it all figured out.
TOS.