Will Trump Survive The Campaign?

twoweeled

Well-Known Member
This is the problem with the "A" typical trump supporter.

Being devoid of common sense and practical math. While you linger on and on about "emotions", you forget something more important about the election process that "trumps" political positions and bluster.

This election is going to come down to basic math.

Math that just isnt in Trumps favor. Yes, he can inflame every WHITE right wing nutball in this country, just like Romney did, and he will still get smoked in the general election. The only problem for Trump, is that he is plissing off the GOP base, and remember, that he was only winning less than 37% of the vote before the others quit, which means that 63% of the republican base were voting against him.

With prominent republicans coming out and saying they will simply NOT vote for Trump or Hillary, that takes away votes Donald cant afford to lose.

With each person coming out against him within the party, the GOP is signaling that they are willing to lose this election to Hillary just to stop Trump, who doesnt represent the republican party at all.

Trumps negative ratings are at all time highs for a candidate of the GOP. NOBODY is disliked more than Trump.

The key to this race, like all the others, is demographics.

Trump cannot win the majority of the black vote.

Trump cannot win the majority of the hispanic vote.

Trump cannot win the majority of the Asian vote.

Trump cannot win the majority of the single women vote.

Trump cannot win the majority of the middle eastern muslim vote.

Without these demographics in his column, he is a dead man walking.

Once Hillary and Bernie team up and unify the party, Trump will be doomed. His VP pick will also come into play.

"WE" progressive liberals got EXACTLY who we wanted to run against, and now all we need is for Trump to pick Sarah Palin and you might as well stay home in November.

It doesnt matter what bluster is said, or how Trump got to the nomination.

As for your confidence that Trump is the man, look at yesterdays primaries which were held a WEEK after Cruz and Kasich dropped out of the race.

A total of 180,231 republican votes were cast and YET, 58,944 still voted AGAINST TRUMP in the state. ALMOST 50% voted against him.

This hardly represents a plurality of the republican base. Those 59k have a reason NOT to vote for Trump, and in november, they STILL may not vote for TRUMP.

WHY, if Trump was technically the only one on the ballot, would 59K vote against him if he was so popular?

Why not forget about the fox news hype or donalds own hype. The numbers tell the whole story bro.

The only people excited about Trump are the "A" typical white fringe of this country. Sorry, but facts are facts.

If it wasnt, you would see plenty of people of color at his rallies and we all can see 20/20 as his crowds continue to be rednecked lily white backwoods drones dumb enough to fall for his B.S.

The democrats would be crapping their pants right now, if Trump crowds were filled with hispanics, blacks, asians and other people of color. But there isnt, so there is no need to panic.

Hillary is going to trounce Trump and you and the others going to the edge to support him are only setting yourself up for a major disappointment.

The RCP is the most accurate source of polling data in the country. They have NEVER missed a prediction for the white house since it began.

Other than rassmussen, who we have already discounted before as a fox news unreliable source for polling.. here are the latest numbers for the week.

Keep in mind, both McCain and Romney were alot closer to OBAMA at this same time in their election cycles. Look how far behind trump has been week after week.

RealClearPolitics - 2016 Presidential Race

Good luck with your delusions.

TOS.
Your fooling yourself and yourself only, if you think this (and most other) elections are not emotion driven, in large part. Better get a new abacus.

Of course the election comes down to basic math. DUH!! LOL! But the numbers are in large part, emotion driven.

I'm hoping very much Trump doesn't go the way of Romney. NEWS FLASH! Romney lost! And if you think it's only whites voting for Trump, then that would explain why your not making a lot of sense to this point.

How many of those prominent republicans that you claim will not endorse Trump, mattered enough to stop Trump from getting the majority of electoral votes? Answer; ZERO !!
How many of those "prominent" (as you call them) republicans have been able to stop Trump's Roll to presumptive nominee? Answer? ZERO!! NADA!
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As for people coming out against him? He's still in the lead. Everybody hating, nobady wants him, the party hates him - but he's still in front! How can that be? Better get that abacus out again!
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I suspect the part you don't get, is the republican party didn't represent the majority of the republican part. Better do a little more reading, while your doing all that math over again.

Trump's negative ratings with the GOP are at an all time high? Gee, and Jeb Bush's ratings with the GOP were at an all time high, in the beginning. Do you see the problem other side? Are you not listening (refer to above pic)? You may have to attend summer school.

Trump may not win the majority of the Black vote. Hilary can't possibly win the majority of the intelligent vote.

Not so sure about the hispanic vote. There is a possibility Hispanics will eventually realize, the jobs illegals are taking, ARE THEIR JOBS!!! That one may surprise you.

The single women vote? Yes, valid point. what about the inteligent working woman? Again, up in the air, except when doing the math on your broken calculator.

Middle eastern? Maybe

Trump is just as much a dead man walking, as Hilary is liable to be up for impeachment, for her lying and dishonesty.

Hilary is going to lose many of Bernie's votes to Trump. Why do you think Bernie's voters are not with Hilary now? If Hilary takes Bernie as VP, that could change. I don't see that.

No doubt you guys got who you wanted. Unfortunately, your not everybody.
IF TRUMP WERE TO PICK PALIN, as you hypothetically state, then that would undoubtedly draw some of those unintelligent women backing Hilary I was talking about earlier. Bad for Hilary! Let's face it, Hilary depends on the dim bulbs in crowd. Without them, she wouldn't be where she is today!!

The rest is just repeating what you've already stated.

I just have one question for you Mr. Mathematician.
What color is the sky in your world?? LOL!!
 

The Other Side

Well-Known Troll
Troll
Your fooling yourself and yourself only, if you think this (and most other) elections are not emotion driven, in large part. Better get a new abacus.

Of course the election comes down to basic math. DUH!! LOL! But the numbers are in large part, emotion driven.

I'm hoping very much Trump doesn't go the way of Romney. NEWS FLASH! Romney lost! And if you think it's only whites voting for Trump, then that would explain why your not making a lot of sense to this point.

How many of those prominent republicans that you claim will not endorse Trump, mattered enough to stop Trump from getting the majority of electoral votes? Answer; ZERO !!
How many of those "prominent" (as you call them) republicans have been able to stop Trump's Roll to presumptive nominee? Answer? ZERO!! NADA!
250px--Blowing_a_raspberry.ogv.jpg

As for people coming out against him? He's still in the lead. Everybody hating, nobady wants him, the party hates him - but he's still in front! How can that be? Better get that abacus out again!
head-sand-small-2541043_1.jpg

I suspect the part you don't get, is the republican party didn't represent the majority of the republican part. Better do a little more reading, while your doing all that math over again.

Trump's negative ratings with the GOP are at an all time high? Gee, and Jeb Bush's ratings with the GOP were at an all time high, in the beginning. Do you see the problem other side? Are you not listening (refer to above pic)? You may have to attend summer school.

Trump may not win the majority of the Black vote. Hilary can't possibly win the majority of the intelligent vote.

Not so sure about the hispanic vote. There is a possibility Hispanics will eventually realize, the jobs illegals are taking, ARE THEIR JOBS!!! That one may surprise you.

The single women vote? Yes, valid point. what about the inteligent working woman? Again, up in the air, except when doing the math on your broken calculator.

Middle eastern? Maybe

Trump is just as much a dead man walking, as Hilary is liable to be up for impeachment, for her lying and dishonesty.

Hilary is going to lose many of Bernie's votes to Trump. Why do you think Bernie's voters are not with Hilary now? If Hilary takes Bernie as VP, that could change. I don't see that.

No doubt you guys got who you wanted. Unfortunately, your not everybody.
IF TRUMP WERE TO PICK PALIN, as you hypothetically state, then that would undoubtedly draw some of those unintelligent women backing Hilary I was talking about earlier. Bad for Hilary! Let's face it, Hilary depends on the dim bulbs in crowd. Without them, she wouldn't be where she is today!!

The rest is just repeating what you've already stated.

I just have one question for you Mr. Mathematician.
What color is the sky in your world?? LOL!!


The sadness of watching a person living in an emotional state.

You havent quite learned any lessons from 2008 and 2012, unlike the RNC itself which has, and knows that TRUMP will set back the party decades with a loss.

The RNC has tried to go out of its way to unify the base and bring in the other demographics they are consistently LOSING, but TRUMPS circus act is only pushing those demographics away.

This isnt what the republican party wants or needs. TRUMP will be the death of the party, and while you live in lala land filled with emotional instability devoid of reality, this election will go sideways for you in november.

As for your suggestion that Bernie voters will vote for trump, this shows you how absent of real understanding you really are.

Millenials will NEVER vote for Trump. He is the epitome of a royal :censored2: and that doesnt earn the young votes. Except in the non educated red states where they view trump as some kind of white mesiah.

Hispanics will NEVER vote for trump, just like they didnt for McCain, or Romney.

Muslim Americans were insulted by Trump to the point where there is no turning back. There is no PIVOT point big enough for trump to go back on his words.

Asian Americans also have a problem with Trump, as they have one of the largest percentages of immigrants overstaying visas in this country.

BLACKS will in no way vote for a pure racist, who cannot hide his racial annimous when he speaks.

But regardless of the obvious, before trump can even worry about the other demographics that will ultimately sink his campaign, he is losing GOP votes from within.

Yes, he is the front runner, but not because of his message, and not because of his positions, but rather, he had the best scenario layed out in front of him when the cycle started.

He had 17 other candidates taking votes away from EACH OTHER while he skirted by with less than a majority of the votes.

Had the race began with only three candidates, TRUMP would have been waxed early, and we wouldnt be talking about him today, but the party, doomed to repeat its mis steps, allowed the party to splinter into too many groups.

The tea party idiots started it, then the populists, then the establishment, then the evangelicals and then the people.

From Mike Huckabee to Rick Santorum, every right wing kook under the sun made it easy for trump to skirt by with stupid talk and insults. How hard is it to call the republican establishment "IDIOTS?"

We have been doing that for decades. Only now have some of you come around to call them IDIOTS yourselves.

I thank you for seeing it "our" way. Welcome to the team.

But, back to Trump, you call him the front runner, but is he running away from the republican party by insulting party officials or is he running away from the platform itself as he FLIP FLOPS on all issues??

How many flip flops in the last three months alone has Trump done?

Sorry my friend, while your enthusiam may be extremely high, the reality of the election wont share your optimism.

TOS.
 

Catatonic

Nine Lives
Millenials will NEVER vote for Trump. He is the epitome of a royal :censored2: and that doesnt earn the young votes. Except in the non educated red states where they view trump as some kind of white mesiah.

BLACKS will in no way vote for a pure racist, who cannot hide his racial annimous when he speaks.

Yes, he is the front runner, but not because of his message, and not because of his positions, but rather, he had the best scenario layed out in front of him when the cycle started.

Sorry my friend, while your enthusiam may be extremely high, the reality of the election wont share your optimism.

TOS.
One of the few pleasures of having to moderate the Queue is I get to see all the misspelled words by those in the queue.
There is usually an indication one is in the queue.
They do have spell-check on smartphones don't they?

As for your message ... people! :teethy:
 

The Other Side

Well-Known Troll
Troll
TWOWHEEL..

lets examine the VIRGINIA primary to establish if TRUMP is the leader or lucky..

There were a total of 1,012,807 votes..

Trump won with 355,960 votes... DOES THIS MEAN HE IS CLEARLY THE PEOPLES CHOICE????

The answer is NO, the reality is simple, TRUMP would have lost this state had the others not got in the way.

RUBIO got 327,042 votes almost the same as trump

Cruz got 173,193

Kasich got 96,519

Carson got 60,093

But lets look at it in a real sense...

656,847 republicans in the state of Virginia VOTED AGAINST Trump in the primary, and if just ONE of the other candidates were not in the race to begin with, TRUMP wouldnt be your FRONT runner today.

But the republican party doesnt know who it is anymore, and all its splinter groups led the party to be stuck with TRUMP.

Trump isnt winning because he is the best candidate, he is winning because all the others took each other out .

Trump is the last man standing, and he will be the last man to represent the Republican party in this decade before the party blows up in november.

Good luck with your highly emotional lunacy.

Reality will be an ugly guest in your home come november.

TOS.
 

Sportello

Well-Known Member
One of the few pleasures of having to moderate the Queue is I get to see all the misspelled words by those in the queue.
There is usually an indication one is in the queue.
They do have spell-check on smartphones don't they?

As for your message ... people! :teethy:
Too bad there isn't a grammar filter as well. I suppose that newtie and gumby would take up you're whole day, it that was the case ;)



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twoweeled

Well-Known Member
TOS.[/QUOTE]
The sadness of watching a person living in an emotional state.

You havent quite learned any lessons from 2008 and 2012, unlike the RNC itself which has, and knows that TRUMP will set back the party decades with a loss.

The RNC has tried to go out of its way to unify the base and bring in the other demographics they are consistently LOSING, but TRUMPS circus act is only pushing those demographics away.

This isnt what the republican party wants or needs. TRUMP will be the death of the party, and while you live in lala land filled with emotional instability devoid of reality, this election will go sideways for you in november.

As for your suggestion that Bernie voters will vote for trump, this shows you how absent of real understanding you really are.

Millenials will NEVER vote for Trump. He is the epitome of a royal :censored2: and that doesnt earn the young votes. Except in the non educated red states where they view trump as some kind of white mesiah.

Hispanics will NEVER vote for trump, just like they didnt for McCain, or Romney.

Muslim Americans were insulted by Trump to the point where there is no turning back. There is no PIVOT point big enough for trump to go back on his words.

Asian Americans also have a problem with Trump, as they have one of the largest percentages of immigrants overstaying visas in this country.

BLACKS will in no way vote for a pure racist, who cannot hide his racial annimous when he speaks.

But regardless of the obvious, before trump can even worry about the other demographics that will ultimately sink his campaign, he is losing GOP votes from within.

Yes, he is the front runner, but not because of his message, and not because of his positions, but rather, he had the best scenario layed out in front of him when the cycle started.

He had 17 other candidates taking votes away from EACH OTHER while he skirted by with less than a majority of the votes.

Had the race began with only three candidates, TRUMP would have been waxed early, and we wouldnt be talking about him today, but the party, doomed to repeat its mis steps, allowed the party to splinter into too many groups.

The tea party idiots started it, then the populists, then the establishment, then the evangelicals and then the people.

From Mike Huckabee to Rick Santorum, every right wing kook under the sun made it easy for trump to skirt by with stupid talk and insults. How hard is it to call the republican establishment "IDIOTS?"

We have been doing that for decades. Only now have some of you come around to call them IDIOTS yourselves.

I thank you for seeing it "our" way. Welcome to the team.

But, back to Trump, you call him the front runner, but is he running away from the republican party by insulting party officials or is he running away from the platform itself as he FLIP FLOPS on all issues??

How many flip flops in the last three months alone has Trump done?

Sorry my friend, while your enthusiam may be extremely high, the reality of the election wont share your optimism.

TOS.
It sad watching others living in an emotional state, but that's the way it is!

I had no lessons to learn. Your wrong again. The RNC has learned nothing. If they had, either Bush would be the candidate, or they would've been backing Trump when it was evident that's who republicans wanted!

The RNC has done the total opposite of what you say. The RNC has totally divided the party trying to force it's own choice for candidate.

The GOP has been going down hill for awhile. It's a fantasy to say the party is falling because of Trump.

A part of Bernie's voters will go to Trump. That will just be another lesson for you to learn, and deny later.

Millennials will never Vote Trump? lol, Now who's in denial! I guess we'll just chock that up to lesson number 244 for you?

Hispanics voted for Bush! I bet you didn't see that one coming!

Muslims were insulted by Trump. you finally got one correct!!!
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Your taste in cuts of meat and grills fits the stereotype perfectly.

I must admit that you are correct in the 'season the crap out of crap meat' part of your dinner.


Pro tip: Your dogs will puke if you feed them that crap.
That's a sirloin roast.
I'm slow cooking it in an infrared propane cooker.

But again, you have nothing but name calling

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Sportello

Well-Known Member
There is your first mistake, cooking steak on a turkey fryer.

Once again, don't feed that to your dog.

You and tieguy deserve each other.

I know how to cook, big dummy.
 
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