I graduated college in May and had a few interviews ready for after graduation when I got home, Casual driver position, being one of them.
UM, I dont understand, you go to school to become a casual driver? And that is one of the interviews you scheduled?
I felt as tho the interviews I went on were not for the most legit companies so I decided to give driving a shot
Actually the honest version is "I was told that someone fresh out of school wanting a high paying job were a dime a dozen. So since no one would hire me, I settled for UPS."
and from everything I learned/know/and was told about UPS, they are a great company to work for and like to hire from within. My goal was to drive as a casual until the end of the year and move up to Business Development, which just about everyone in UPS told me was very feasible and they sounded excited about me.
Lets see, your not even just a part time employee, you are casual. And just about everybody at UPS sounded exited and it is very feasible for you to go from casual to full time business development? Really? And what type of drugs were you on that day they fed you this stuff? This happens in movies, not real life.
Well, a week before peak ended, they tell me know BD isn't all that realistic for me at the time and introduced the idea of Part Time Supervisor.
And you dont see the part time job as a move up from casual?
My spirit was instantly shot down when they told me that. I had a pretty crappy route, one that I was told is the worst for learning the area.
It might be a bad area for learning delivery, but it just might be the perfect area to prove your mettle and determination....
Missing street signs, streets that don't even make sense, dirt roads (packages all fell on the ground).
And this is UPS's Fault how?
But I always thought; this is what I need to do and if I do, I will be a better person and get the career I truly want.
There you go, some straight talk, first thing you said that made sense.
They said I would need to do the P.T. Super job first, then be promoted up tom BD.
Far be it for me to disagree with "they" but that is not how it usually works.
Well, I took the MAPP assessment December 30th. I got laid off Dec 31st. One week later HR says, "hey we'd love for you to come in for an interview, hold tight, we will call you in a few days." I was so happy, so I waited one week and nothing came. So I called them and I hear, "oh yeah, a few days." well its now been almost 2 months. I could have gotten a different job in this amount of time. HR calls me last week to see if I am still interested in Management. They said I need to take the MAPP, I said I already did. They said, oh, how did you do? I said, nobody ever told me. "Oh, well we will look and call you today." I am tired of waiting to be called back, so I drove in.
After two months off, this is the first time you paid a face to face?I made one hell of a good impression on them. They said the infamous "we will call you in a few days." That was last Tuesday, so almost a week.
Two months off without any face time, only calls, and you made a hell of an impression alright! What were you doing with your time off?
I feel like they affected me negatively, because I waited for them and as a result lost 2 months of a pay check. What do you guys think?
Well since you asked, I will get to that later. But how could they affect you negatively? It was you that sat around without going back to the center, sitting around on your lazy behind, without following through on the phone calls. Who do you have to blame but yourself for your failure?
I agree with all that, but what does one do? wait 5 years til they promote another PT Super to open up a spot? For a job that may or may not even get me to BD,
Well we wont ever know now will we?
And after researching, it sounds like UPS in not the most honest or caring for their employees.
You want honest and caring, get married. Thats what you are looking for, someone to take care of you. Newsflash, UPS ain't it, they aint your mamma, and they wont breast feed you.
They made BD look like it was right there. They said they are always looking for new people and especially younger people. I'm 22, the next youngest is like 42. I will give them til Friday, and then lost one of the best workers they will see.
All I see here is Wah wah wah....
I am damn right giving UPS an ultimatum.
Hey bubba, you need to go back to school. Someone that issues an ultimatum needs to hold all the cards. And from what you have written so far, all you hold is the joker.
They put me in a route where everybody struggles with. People have quit because of that route, tow trucks have spent a lot of time in that route, because drivers got into bad situations. Not me, because I am smart, aware, and one hell of a worker. By the end of peak when I was doing more stops then anyone else in history of that route and coming in an hour early, nobody could believe it. They want to treat an employee like this, they will lose in the long run.
Schmuck, coming in an hour early? Now how smart is that?
I have submitted 2 letters of intent, which were evidently meaningless. I want to be in sales and marketing, since that is what my degree is in. I'm looking to get into fulltime management to make a career for myself, not to escape anything.
You want a made career, not to make yourself successful. Do you know the difference?
Weak? I sure as hell am not weak. I am just tired of getting thrown around. I've followed up with phone calls and personal visits.
Wow, now its visits? More than the one you mentioned previously where you impressed the hell out of the people?
Each time I feel like I am closer to the job. Then nothing happens. I am doing exactly what I was taught in college and I am doing it well.
Whats that? What were you trained to do in college? So far, it seems all you were trained to do is bitch and complain cause someone didnt give you the job you wanted.....
UPS just feels like a lost cause. The things I have overcome doing this job in the route I had, would drive a "weak" person into the grave. I always continued and prevailed. My motivation was the promotion into BD. I did everything right. I am a standout employee, or was...
At least in your mind....
Economy is tough. Most of my friends since May, still do not have jobs.
Hello, this might be a sign from heaven......
I figured if I drove then a lot of positions would be open, which in my first ever interview they told me would be.
Explain something to me. Do they teach you to believe anything you are told, or to do your own research? It would seem like to me, in a bad economy where people with degrees cant get a job, how would UPS have a lot of positions open, especially if they are laying off employees in the departments you are looking to get hired into?
I don't particularly favor sales, just a business job in a company that pays well, offers benefits, and won't be going anywhere.
So what you just said was that since you have a diploma, all you care about is getting an office job, 9-5, your own office with all the perks?
I told HR, I can do sales/marketing or Human Resources. I don't see sales in UPS being different from sales in any other company. Get leads, work off leads, present your ideas and try to complete the sale.
Get leads, work the leads, present your ideas? What ever happened to getting off your behind and getting leads of your own? Oh I forgot, you just want the office, not the work...
I drove for 6 months. I understand because I was the 'new guy,' I got one of the crappiest routes. I'm not complaining.
Junior, let me tell you a secret. Most casual drivers are given tit routes. Thats right, you couldnt handle a real route, so they give you what they call a training route. Every driver gets to cut their teeth on that route. And they make it the easiest one in the building.
And I can understand that because of senority. I understand I may not get the job I want right away.
OK, if you understand it, then why the thread?
BUT, BUT. BUT they were not honest with me when they explained everything. They told me, drive safely, do a good job, submit a letter of intent, and you will be laid off, but BD will come soon after.
Really, describe soon. How many weeks or months is that?
I met with BD plenty of times, in fact the manager of BD's niece and I went to the same college. Then 1 week before peak is over they finally got honest with me and bring up p.t. supervisor.
Hey bubba, again, that is the only open job we have. Its either that, or wait for the casual driver thing again this fall.
That is my point. I am not weak and I worked more than one month with UPS.
MY GOD, you worked more than one month at UPS and already you feel like youve done enough to land you an office job???? What BS did they fill your head with at school?
Don't fill a guys head with empty promises, then screw around with him. And as far as the ultimatum question, that was somewhat irritating to me, hence my rebuttal to it. Obviously UPS will survive with out me, my point was they "lied" to me for the last time. They lost a good worker who wanted to work with them. That was my point.
I have a stellar resume and always prevail.
I put this one last for a reason. You have a stellar resume? With whom? All you have done since getting out of school in May is drive part time for UPS for a month, and sit on your behind for almost a year. How is that stellar? Prevail? Only if you are on The Biggest Loser.