8/15/13 PCM

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by 1080Driver, Aug 15, 2013.

  1. 1080Driver

    1080Driver Member

    Our PCM this morning made no mention of yesterdays tragic plane crash and the loss of our 2 pilots. Nothing. No moment of silence. Nothing. We reviewed the 8 Keys to Lifting and Lowering.
    ​Was it the same all over? Lets pretend it didn't happen? Its disgraceful if you ask me.
     
  2. serenity now

    serenity now Guest

    Are you surprised?
     
  3. Just Numbers

    Just Numbers Retired

    Although I think that is a damn shame and, since you took the time to post about it on BC, did you take the time to mention it to the person who gave the pcm?
     
  4. cachsux

    cachsux Wah

    I'm sure if you had spoke up they would have joined you in observance.
     
  5. bleedinbrown58

    bleedinbrown58 ahhh....the mouth breathers

    Not for nothing...i'm sorry two of our brothers were killed...but we've had employees in our building die, and the most management does is post the obituary and wake times so we can pay our respects. So, do I think my center manager is going to bring up the plane crash?? No.
     
  6. mixyo

    mixyo Active Member

    It was mentioned in our PCM both today and yesterday (about an hour after the crash happned).
     
  7. DevaAnne910

    DevaAnne910 New Member

    Same here... We're too busy worrying about parking issues & the trash dumpster! Just blows my mind at the stupidity.
     
  8. 728ups

    728ups offending people on the internet since 1995

    It was mentioned Yesterday at the PCM by both the center manager and an On Road Supervisor. Both were very respectful,and even went so far as to say at the end of the day We are all UPS'ers with families,and to keep the Pilots' famlies in our thoughts . I'll give credit where it is due I was impressed with the way they addressed it
     
  9. MDupsernj

    MDupsernj New Member

    No mention of it in my center...even asked our boss and he shrugged shoulders and said what is there to say...
     
  10. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member

    Serious question:

    People die on the job at UPS all the time. Should every death be mentioned at PCMs countrywide for all of them?
     
  11. stink219

    stink219 Well-Known Member

    We (the stewards) had PE lower our flag to half mast.
     
  12. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member

    Seriously?
     
  13. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member

    It just seems many here are upset because the company said nothing about the tragic deaths of the two pilots.
    I wonder if they'd be upset if some loader in East Buttlick, North Dakota had died on the job and not been mentioned at the PCM.
     
  14. toonertoo

    toonertoo Most Awesome Dog Staff Member

    When people die in our building or familes of the employees, they have been pretty good as of late, mentioning it, calling hrs, etc. To me this is big. I feel it should have been mentioned, and wasn't.
    Our pcm was all about a rollover because some yahoo put 50 70 pdrs on top shelves, . Somehow he thought that would center the car as far as gravity? Yes some of us are dumb truck drivers.
     
  15. Wally

    Wally Hailing from Parts Unknown.

    Here in NJ, I don't think anyone has a clue this even happened. Not a word.
     
  16. 728ups

    728ups offending people on the internet since 1995

    yes it should be mentioned.
     
  17. Cementups

    Cementups Box Monkey

    Warning: this will sound a bit cold, but.....

    I realize it just happened yesterday, but I would say it's better to move on than to dwell on what happened yesterday. I believe this about every aspect in life.

    ​"Do not dwell in the past, do not dream of the future, concentrate the mind on the present moment." - Buddha
     
  18. FilingBluesFL

    FilingBluesFL Well-Known Member

    The only thing mentioned at our PCM was whether or not we did our DIAD training, and I was asked if I was going to make 9.5...

    Typical.
     
  19. balland chain

    balland chain Member

    Most likely not.. We lost a package driver last week, and not much said about that last week. I suppose it is due to the media attention..Reading the news stories and watching news videos all over the internet bring this to the forefront. It is sad when any UPSer dies on the job and if the company would acknowledge these hard working men and women maybe, just maybe we would feel differently about the company we work for..
     
  20. hurricanegunner

    hurricanegunner UPSPoop

    We hear about accidents that took place, sometimes in different states. Even when the UPS driver did nothing wrong and could not possibly have avoided said accident, we spend time listening to endless blather about it. Why not show a little respect for those who lost their lives?