8years with the company I got fired for marijuana use

[clean hairy]

Caught smoking weed on property? I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure you're toast.

No different than being caught slurping down a bottle of Booze on property.

 

[clean hairy]

our parking lot is leased by the county or city. That's why they've always said to take fights out to the parking lots. Lol

I don't think there was proof that he drank in the parking lot, or they didn't go looking for proof.

Punched in folks who have messed with drugs/booze have never gotten their job back. Folks who haven't clocked in. Or those who clock out and then are seen doing funny business, it's a bit in the air.

Yet the parking lot was UPS property during the strike, and we were not allowed on the parking lot.
If something happens to a Management vehicle, it is UPS property.
But, something happens to employee vehicle, it is not UPS property or their problem.

 

[trailer loader]

if ups decided to drug test loaders and unloaders,at least 80-90% would be shown the door in my hub, we got sups , loaders, unloaders, sorters and pick offs taking dabs all shift,

 

[DELACROIX]

Consuming on property is contractual language.

if that guy who was drunk, drank a beer on property he would have been terminated on the spot. Before punching in or not.

I can still remember back in the 80's having TLA's (pizza and beers) while on the clock off the property, difference cultural norms back then...

 

[ManInBrown]

I heard if you get a DUI you alert them and also say "I have a problem with alcohol and I need help" you're relatively in the clear

I don’t know. Here I’ve heard DUI is not auto termination. You get one free pass. Second one you’re done.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Start applying for other jobs... it’s too late

"Why did you leave your current position? I was firing up in the parking lot. Oh. OK, thank you for applying. We will let you know."

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Happens to the best of us.

Uh....no it doesn't. The "best of us" know better than to violate company policy, especially on company property.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Caught smoking weed on property? I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure you're toast.

Burnt toast?

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

I think they’ll automatically know you have a problem with alcohol when you tell them you got a DUI

Not necessarily.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

I can still remember back in the 80's having TLA's (pizza and beers) while on the clock off the property, difference cultural norms back then...

Talk
Listen
Act

We used to have our TLA's one on one with our on car at a local restaurant while having breakfast.

 

[Wally]

UPS fired me for consuming marijuana before I went in to work. It was in property. I stated I was dealing with an addiction and needed help. Despite rumors of “potheads” I have management and co workers who know and will attest to me being a very hard worker, a team player, always with a smile and good attitude always willing to help, and over all a good person. They stated even with a grievance hearing they would not accept me back. Anyone ever been in this situation before how’d it turn out my union rep says it’s not for sure but he/she is sure they can get my job back but that it was going to take time. Any advice other then I have already quit using and am looking into MA classes for help with my addiction

Addiction? I thought this marijuana was harmless?

 

[BigUnionGuy]

UPS fired me for consuming marijuana before I went in to work. It was in property. I stated I was dealing with an addiction and needed help. Despite rumors of “potheads” I have management and co workers who know and will attest to me being a very hard worker, a team player, always with a smile and good attitude always willing to help, and over all a good person. They stated even with a grievance hearing they would not accept me back. Anyone ever been in this situation before how’d it turn out my union rep says it’s not for sure but he/she is sure they can get my job back but that it was going to take time. Any advice other then I have already quit using and am looking into MA classes for help with my addiction

Caught on property, smoking dope and test positive.


Non-DOT—Reasonable Cause:

"In the event an employee (not covered by DOT) is tested pursuant to the discipline Article in the Supplemental Rider or Addenda to the National Master UPS Agreement, such test will be performed under the same procedures and requirements as those set forth in this Article. In the event the test result is positive, as set forth above, it shall be considered a dischargeable offense."


https://teamster.org/sites/default/files/ups18nationalmaster.pdf


Enjoy your new career.



-Bug-

 

[BigUnionGuy]

I don’t know. Here I’ve heard DUI is not auto termination. You get one free pass. Second one you’re done.

A DUI off the clock in your own personal vehicle, is an automatic trip to be evaluated.

Based on that evaluation, it's usually rehab and a year of further testing.


Failure to inform the company of the DUI, or a DUI in the company vehicle and

you are done.... no chance at rehab.


It used to be you only got one "bite of the apple". But, that's changed.


"Employees shall be permitted to take advantage of a rehabilitation program once every five (5) years, three (3) times lifetime maximum, under all conditions of this Article."

 

[quad decade guy]

A DUI off the clock in your own personal vehicle, is an automatic trip to be evaluated.

Based on that evaluation, it's usually rehab and a year of further testing.


Failure to inform the company of the DUI, or a DUI in the company vehicle and

you are done.... no chance at rehab.


It used to be you only got one "bite of the apple". But, that's changed.


"Employees shall be permitted to take advantage of a rehabilitation program once every five (5) years, three (3) times lifetime maximum, under all conditions of this Article."

Good info. Bravo. The OP sounds idiotic. But then, that would be unkind. I have a personal friend that has gotten his "act together" after a couple DUI's and I like the new version of him. I realize folks of every stripe have addictions and vices. For the OP, weed was "just integrated into my life", reminding all of us it's still illegal(Federally). A sign is posted(first thing you see) in our office that THC is illegal and DOT disqualifying. I believe in redemption and that can take many paths and forms. But do you want to work around folks that have such a problem with potentially impairing drugs?

 

[burrheadd]

Addiction? I thought this marijuana was harmless?

It’s medicine
You can abuse it like any other medicine

 

[DRporch]

If they have rehab for calling in I’m going to have to tell them before I call in next I have a problem

 

[iruhnman630]

Yes they did they gave me to options to resign or go through with testing and if I came out positive it was a automatic termination they were trying to force me to resign but I want to keep my job with them but since they “seen me” smoking on property that rehab was out of the question ima about to file a grievance also wanted help on wording my grievance correctly

"...on property..."

You're screwed.

 

[Wally]

It’s medicine
You can abuse it like any other medicine

Oh, so it is dangerous.

 

[PT Car Washer]

A DUI off the clock in your own personal vehicle, is an automatic trip to be evaluated.

Based on that evaluation, it's usually rehab and a year of further testing.


Failure to inform the company of the DUI, or a DUI in the company vehicle and

you are done.... no chance at rehab.


It used to be you only got one "bite of the apple". But, that's changed.


"Employees shall be permitted to take advantage of a rehabilitation program once every five (5) years, three (3) times lifetime maximum, under all conditions of this Article."

A DUI in my building gets you a broom and a job in Porters for up to a year.

 

[sandwich]

I don’t know. Here I’ve heard DUI is not auto termination. You get one free pass. Second one you’re done.

Nope, as long as you are able to maintain your license and you tell them as soon as it happens your fine. You would be shocked to hear how many drivers have multiple dui’s