local804
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We were asked to not go over 10 minutes or we would e a threat to have our start times moved back. you know, cause 8:30 isn't late enough.
id kill for that start time
We were asked to not go over 10 minutes or we would e a threat to have our start times moved back. you know, cause 8:30 isn't late enough.
How much time is allowed for a driver for A.M. time? My understanding is only 8 minutes, and this includes the so called 3 minutes pcm. At least this is what our center manager is saying. Can any driver out there really attend a pcm, walk to pkg car, wrap up, verify all airs, perform a true pretrip, and leave the property within alloted time? Our center sups are now requiring us to have ANY excessive time approved. Any other drivers experience this?
Honestly, I believe that is more for your sup's then for your drivers. AM Time is one part of the daily numbers, it also includes the loaders time as well. AM time continues to drag until the last PC leaves the building.
The sups (should be) monitoring loader time, driver time and volume (PPH) as part of their daily operating schedule. They have an alotted number of hours based on the VOL on that specific belt.
You can look at it like this...
If you are running your own business...
Excessive AM time (loaders & drivers) = NO PROFIT
- you have "x" amount of dollars to spend
- you have "x" amount of work
- If you run over the "x" amount of dollars = no profit
- If you run under "x" amount = you make a profit
- If you have too many people on per the amount of work = no profit
- If you have the right amount of people for the work = profit
These numbers at UPS are monitored (by what ever higher power) everyday to the 10th of a second (NOT MINUTE) down to every single PC.
If your loader is there for 3.5 hours and has a volume of 200:
(TOTAL VOLUME / HOURS = PPH)
200p / 3.5hrs = 57.14 PPH
The loader should load at a rate of 57 PPH in order to stay on track.
All the preload sup cares about his looking awesome (Or not looking like a bafoon) in the next conference call. If that means drivers have to wrap their own trucks to make their preload numbers look better then so be it!
I do the same thing. Go to other work and put my time as "LS skilled"Mt truck is usually wrapped up the next day.When I had to load my car because they sent the preloader home early, I use to go in under "Other Work" and charge the time back to the preload. I can't remember exactly what the charge was made to, maybe AM sort. Its been 2 years since I drove so I can't remember the exact terminology in the DIAD.
You can do this on the screen with your left building time. If I have to finish loading my truck it goes on preload time. If I have to unload at nite it goes on local sort time.When I had to load my car because they sent the preloader home early, I use to go in under "Other Work" and charge the time back to the preload. I can't remember exactly what the charge was made to, maybe AM sort. Its been 2 years since I drove so I can't remember the exact terminology in the DIAD.
You can do this on the screen with your left building time. If I have to finish loading my truck it goes on preload time. If I have to unload at nite it goes on local sort time.
You don't have to do anything. AM time directly effects the preload. Thats why the push is to get you out as fast as possible.
But if the preload isn't finishing their job and I am loading, I prefer to put it in my board that way so MY AM time doesn't become a topic of discussion down the road. I guess I am just a stickler for not falsifying my "time card". If your manager is telling you to put a certain "left bldg" time in your board whether you have left or not, that is falsifying your records. With all the time stamps we now have on deliveries, UPS knows how long it takes to get to your first stop every day. Putting in the REAL time you leave the bldg. covers you in case down the road someone wants to know why it took so long to get to your first stop. Honesty is the best protection, or is that supposed to be policy?
I'm not saying nor advocating that you put anything other then your actual leave building time down when you leave the building.
All I'm saying is that you don't need to worry about how your coding the AM time to charge the preload. It will anyways regardless.
I wasn't suggesting you gave that advice. An earlier poster had stated he didn't care, he would put whatever time management wanted, he got paid the same. If my start time is 8:30 and I have to sort&load for 30 minutes, I put that time under sort and load and then my usual AM time afterwards followed by my left bldg time. I know the time gets charged to the preload ,but this way, my AM time remains a constant amount of time. Only my sort and load time increases and this is charged back to the preload, not my usual AM time. I think!
I understand what your saying and I agree. Some may not know that our AM time is charged to the preload regardless.