Arizona's anti-imigration law...
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Lue C Fur
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brett636
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Im thinking of moving there.
Alas, I am too far away from retirement and or graduation from school to think about moving out of state, but Arizona would be my first choice.
I have in the past been told that I look Peurto Rican, Columbian, and Nicaraguan though I am not of Latino heritage and have always been a citizen of the United States. If in Arizona and I'm being stopped for looking like I may be an illegal where is my constitutional guarantee against unreasonable search and seizure? And here in the great melting pot I am certainly not alone. The fact is this law is doomed to failure in Federal court sooner rather than later.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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This is the best post thus far on the subject. This law lends itself too easily to racial profiling. Is illegal immigration a crisis? Yes but this is not the answer. This law will be short lived and will create more headaches than it was designed to cure.
browndevil
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We can only hope so! Arizona is quickly becoming a minority majority state. What will happen when racial profiling is reversed? "Hey, you look too caucasion must be Canadian" Then there will be be white outrage
Catatonic
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tieguy
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Oh no, the Mexican govt is upset...what will they do????....shut down the border and not let Mexicans come to America. LMAO!!!!
mexico needs to solve their own crime issues before they branch their perspective across the borders.
tieguy
Banned
Wow immigration control makes you a communist. roflmao
diesel96
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That's a warped and unfair view of all Mexicans and Hispanics.....most are hard-working dedicated family members just trying to survive, their not all gangbangers of MS 13.......
BTW.....The first lesson of self defense for people of that state, is to stop making it so easy and accessible to obtain guns, and stop hiring illegals for low wages and no benefits.....
In the past, you've demonstated you were well versed in the Constitution, what gives here ?
This law allows authorities, w/o warrant and provocation, to detain US citizens and those legally here, without their proper ID papers....Heil Hitler !
I'm sure you didn't serve your country so State Lawmakers could legislate laws attacking our liberty and freedoms.
Liberty and freedom, two words Conservatives like to toss around as if they have a patent on it. But lets not look the other way, cause this law won't effect people that look like us......
moreluck
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My "warped and unrealistic" opinion applies ONLY to illegals. If you are here illegally, you are a criminal!! 
http://www.immigrationcounters.com/
http://www.immigrationcounters.com/
diesel96
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If Healthcare reform makes Obama a communists, then yes, Az law-makers and their supporters promote the road to Communism ?
Inform your tea party friends, Obama is more-like a Communist by prolonging the Bush/Cheney Patriot Act and all it's warrantless wiretapping, e-mail eavesdropping, and pardoning Communication Co's.
W/o injecting emotion,partisanship, or bigotry into the issue, this piece of crap Az legislation is closer to the school of Karl Marx than we've ever had. Is this legislation something Conservatives should break out their red, white, and blue sweatshirts with the word patriot on and wave their mini American flags sitting their fat fannies on lawn chairs yelling Liberty, Freedom and Don't Tread on Me.....I think Az Tea-Partiers should dress up in red sweatshirts, drinking Vodka, and waving their Hammers, sickles, and pitchforks...Nastrovia
Yes, but what if I "look like an illegal"? As soon as you search me for that reason, you have violated my constitutional rights.My "warped and unrealistic" opinion applies ONLY to illegals. If you are here illegally, you are a criminal!!
http://www.immigrationcounters.com/
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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Welcome to Arizona
Maybe I'll vacation in Maine this year.
av8torntn
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Every state that I know of already does that due to the force of the US Government. Try not showing your CDL when driving that big rig of yours to the state DOT. Cross a white line, heck not even a yellow line, at three am when getting off work and see what happens when you refuse to submit to the request to take a sample of your breath or blood or refuse to allow them to search your automobile.
As I have stated many times I believe we should live in a free country and if an adult want to exchange labor for whatever wage he choses then it should be his right. This is the real problem for you and your side. There is no way to make the minimum wage work unless you somehow eliminate all the shadow labor markets. You want to oppose this because it was done by an r but if it were done by a d you would be cheering it on.
moreluck
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If you are legal, you only have to show your ID....just like when anyone is pulled over by a cop. If a cop pulls you over , do you scream that your rights have been violated ??? No, you say "yes, officer" and "no, officer" just like everybody else.
If you are illegal, have no ID to show the cop, then you will be treated like any other criminal.
If you are illegal, have no ID to show the cop, then you will be treated like any other criminal.
