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Any stewards on the call? I am willing to bet money mine was not. Is any steward willing to share what was discussed?
Why would the union want to take over the health care?
Why would the union want to take over the health care?
$$$ -> interest income, investment opportunity ... would likely mean many PTers could wind up in an HMO, though....
Any stewards on the call? I am willing to bet money mine was not. Is any steward willing to share what was discussed?
I know someone that was on but I'm at a wedding so can't call him right now.
Oh come on!!! We are waiting for details. Send me his number. Kidding
From what I got in texts it's not quite as bad as it was sounding.
Here we go folks. I was on the call.
1) The language about harassment and 9.5 is the top priority for this contract. Apparently the language is already finished or very close to it and hall believes it is great language in our favor. It will be much easier to cash in on triple time for 9.5 violations. No real heavy duty specifics.
2) Healthcare is a stalemate. The union still maintains that we aren't paying for healthcare. hall gave them the option of allowing the Teamsters to take over our healthcare if they are unwilling to come to the table with status quo offer. He was very clear that we are WORLDS apart from the company on this issue but we aren't backing down.
3) The union is proposing a PT starting wage increase to $15 per hour and $1/yr raise thereafter. The company wants the wages to remain the same and is instead offering $1,000 bonus (per year?) to FT and $500 to PT. hall was audibly disgusted with the companies offer on economics. The call was cutting in and out on my cellphone during this time so I didn't hear about friend/T wages.
Basically the ball is in UPS's court and all they are doing is lowballing. If they want to risk their customers fleeing, so be it. It is UPS's fault for not coming to the table with reasonable offers considering the financial state of the company. hall made it pretty clear that we all need to draw a line in the sand, stand your ground. He said something to the effect if the strike card has to be played, we will play it when the time comes but now is not the time.
P.S. -- I'm a steward and there is no point withholding this information as it will be spread across the web a few hours from now. Same exact stuff i'll be telling people on Monday. TDU/Management was on the call as well, thanks to TDU leaking the phone # and pin # on their website for anyone who wanted to just call in randomly and listen.
60% of UPS teamsters are in union run plans. Mine is. I have the best health care in RI. Also, hall blasted TDU for putting our members livelihood in jeopardy. They posted inaccurate proposal information that the company apparently used to their advantage in future negotiations. Assumptions posted by TDU became the companies negotiating tactics. Also, by posting the stewards call in number on the TDU website there were UPS management personnel on past calls looking for information to use against employees. So thanks again to the Termites Destroying Unions. Your doing a great job at it.
Just talked to one of our stewards who was on the conference call today. thumbnail he gave me was their was mostly agreement on surepost but no response from the company on Teamster proposals about harrasment. The company and union are light years apart on wages. As far as health care goes he told me the creative solution Hall had talked about is the Union taking over the health care plan. No info on what that might cost or the quality of coverage. He told me Hall said the union gave the company three options on health care. First, take the current proposal off the table (I suppose that means maintain status quo) second, allow the union to take over health care and third the union walk away from the table. the negotiations are supposed to be wrapped up by the 31st. He also said Hall was doubtful that could be accomplished and at that time the union would walk away from the table if the company did not accept union proposals.
Read more: http://www.browncafe.com/forum/f39/current-pt-plan-vs-ups-offer-349215/index3.html#ixzz2ONvv1eiT
My brother is a full-time diesel mechanic with a Teamster Health Care Plan with another company and let me tell you his plan is pure garbage compared to my Part-time UPS Healthcare Plan.60% of UPS teamsters are in union run plans. Mine is. I have the best health care in RI. Also, hall blasted TDU for putting our members livelihood in jeopardy. They posted inaccurate proposal information that the company apparently used to their advantage in future negotiations. Assumptions posted by TDU became the companies negotiating tactics. Also, by posting the stewards call in number on the TDU website there were UPS management personnel on past calls looking for information to use against employees. So thanks again to the Termites Destroying Unions. Your doing a great job at it.
Hall said specifically about the dollar reduction to part timers that TDU posted was never a company proposal until after it was on the TDU website. Maybe TDU is closer to management than they appear.hall hasn't shared any stealth, proprietary information with his bargaining unit (it'd be too risky) nor has TDU relayed any such information. Yes, it's possible that some of the information TDU has shared may be inaccurate ... but I fail to see how UPS could "use [it] to its advantage." '