menotyou
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Wrong and unlawful?
Yes.
Common practice?
Highly doubtful.
Just like over-dispatching isn't common, either.
Wrong and unlawful?
Yes.
Common practice?
Highly doubtful.
Don't they have a contractual and legal requirement to pay us correctly whether or not we have a timecard diary?Thats too bad if you let this go on. Were all adults here I think. It's your repsonsibility to make sure your pay and hours are correct. If I had any problems, they were always corrected.
Don't they have a contractual and legal requirement to pay us correctly whether or not we have a timecard diary?
That is hard in a building where camera's aren't allowed and you can't get a printout from the computer. As I was told by a labor sup, the paper you write your hours on could be made up.
The pay that has been stolen from me and my co-workers was intentional. That is why my on-car isn't center manager anymore. How do you explain cutting someone from payroll altogether and paying them a sick day, instead? Just so your "numbers" were right?
I can supply the name of the person. I have lost thousands because of labor sups and lazy union reps. Yes, thousands. They use to have a system where if you used the center board your time wasn't transfered to computer. I had a record of time. Labor refused it and union sat they eating another hamburger, so to say.
This is where I admit a lot of the goings-on at my center probably don't happen everywhere. That is why my center is referred to by managers who don't work here as "The Black Hole".
There are A LOT OF VERY GOOD AND HONORABLE MANAGERS AT UPS. I , unfortunately, have run into a few that aren't. Thank God, I live to giggle at life. I could be a HELL of a lot more jaded than I am, now. I don't like the amount in me, as it is. I don't even like the word.
Now, I am going to skip away while giggling.
Must have been many years ago that they "screwed up their timecard". I only mention this because everything seems to be electronic these days. So, who really screws it up? "Us" or "them" ?There are always problem pockets. I have been involved in 3 investigations for this type of activity and in one instance, UPS fired a division mgr, 2 managers and about 12 sups.
In my entire 38 yr career at UPS, I have never changed anything related to time on someone's time card. If there was a problem, I held the card or the submission and had the employee change and initial or login and make the changes themselves. No good reason for me to assume that risk. I've even had employees shorted a day's pay because they screwed up their timecard on a Friday ... it's their responsibility to get it right, not mine.
Ah yes. This from a company that signed a contract saying they would not allow people to work without getting paid, but yet every AM between 1/3-2/3's of drivers are on their cars. The same company that agrees not to let management do hourly work, but yet will tell in front of a BA that they will continue having management do hourly work, because you only catch them less than 10% of the time.you have to provide evidence that the actual pay is different than what it should be.
Now when you combine the above with this statement, the odds of a manager actually getting canned is very slim. And all it takes with the electronic punch is a few clicks of the mouse, and your production for the day becomes so much better.I only mention this because everything seems to be electronic these days. So, who really screws it up? "Us" or "them" ?
Honesty and integrity.
Hoax
Honesty and integrity. What part of that is not there when a company signs a contract prohibiting an action, but yet will voluntarily violate that contract and brag about it, as long as they are not caught.
Getting caught doing something you promised you wouldnt do is not the issue. Its that you are doing it in the first place. Almost as good as "if they dont catch me stealing the stuff at the store, then Im not really a thief."
Honesty and integrity are core values. Either you have them in all your dealings or you dont.
Greed is just an excuse use by some to justify the lack of the two. But in reality, that is all it is, an excuse.
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While you might think of me as one sided, I only report what I have seen and documented first hand. I do find it interesting that you choose to defend blindly and suggest we are only making things up?
A proverb comes to mind. He who is able to be trusted with little things, can be trusted with large things, but the person that will steal a penny will steal a dollar.
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You really have a mental thingy about greedy, dont you? I dont recall him being refereed to as greedy in my version of the Bible. But then again, with all the different versions out there, who knows.Here is a parable you may have also heard, it is about the management of resources and returning a profit for the greedy owner of the invested money
I had posted that I had been involved in 3 investigations where more than 15 management people had been terminated for time card abuse.
HMMM, sounds like there is a problem, dont it?it is a key attribute that forms the qualifications of being promoted into UPS management and progression in management.
it is about the management of resources and returning a profit for the greedy owner of the invested money (commonly referred to as the talents parable) and is also another key qualification for being promoted into UPS management and progressing in management: