Election 2016

tonyexpress

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Nobody really knows but it does help the 3rd party. If Johnson can win New Mexico (his home state) that would possibly make 270 delegates for either of the other two a problem. Thus it would change the game and congress would get involved.
 

Sportello

Banned
Nobody really knows but it does help the 3rd party. If Johnson can win New Mexico (his home state) that would possibly make 270 delegates for either of the other two a problem. Thus it would change the game and congress would get involved.
Possibly is the key word. Possible is not the same as probable. As of 10/18/2016, fivethirtyeight.com has Clinton at 344 electoral votes. New Mexico's 5 votes don't make any difference

Johnson's ideas on privatization and tax policy are out of step with reality, never mind his (lack of) foreign policy.
 
Possibly is the key word. Possible is not the same as probable. As of 10/18/2016, fivethirtyeight.com has Clinton at 344 electoral votes. New Mexico's 5 votes don't make any difference

Johnson's ideas on privatization and tax policy are out of step with reality, never mind his (lack of) foreign policy.
This election should be very interesting. He could be the monkey wrench
 

oldngray

nowhere special
Clinton is ahead a little in most polls but within margin of error. Trump is closer to Hillary now than Romney was to Obama. Its not over yet. Especially with how the polls can't seem to figure out how much support Trump really has.
 

tonyexpress

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Possibly is the key word. Possible is not the same as probable. As of 10/18/2016, fivethirtyeight.com has Clinton at 344 electoral votes. New Mexico's 5 votes don't make any difference

Latest Gary Johnson Polls: Libertarian Party Candidate Could Top Hillary Clinton In A Large Swath Of The Midwest

Gary Johnson is seeing a huge boost in the polls, with new numbers showing that the Libertarian Party candidate is surging in the Central Plains and could be moving past Democrat Hillary Clinton in these traditionally red states.

Normally, October is the drop-off period for third parties in presidential elections. While voters often support the Green and Libertarian Parties in the high single digits and even low double digits throughout the summer and early fall, as Election Day draws closer, most of them end up falling back in line with the major parties. As a result, third parties have traditionally underperformed their polling on Election Day.

That may not be the case this year, and new polling suggests that Gary Johnson’s support is growing as it nears Election Day. One bit of evidence comes from polling conducted by George Washington University and released on Monday.

fivethirtynine.com has it as a probable now. :D
 

wkmac

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"It's not about whether Johnson or Stein are great candidates, its about VOTERS having choices.
Tonight is the third and final Presidential debate of this cycle and once again, despite having the two most unpopular candidates for President in modern history, there will be ONLY two choices presented to the American people. Why? Because the system has been built to protect two parties."

Ben Swann

 

tonyexpress

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"It's not about whether Johnson or Stein are great candidates, its about VOTERS having choices.

Exactly! Why as voters would we not want more choices? Especially this election cycle with the two most unpopular candidates in modern history.

In the video it say that Johnson has 31% of the independent vote yet he's not on the debate stage...

Insane in the brain if you ask me. :dead:
 

Sportello

Banned
Exactly! Why as voters would we not want more choices? Especially this election cycle with the two most unpopular candidates in modern history.

In the video it say that Johnson has 31% of the independent vote yet he's not on the debate stage...

Insane in the brain if you ask me. :dead:
Of course most voters would prefer more choices, but we have not been given any palatable alternatives.

If a candidate cannot poll at least double figures, keep them off the main stage. I have no problem with an alternative debate for other candidates on the ballot in enough states to win the Electoral College, otherwise it is a distraction.
 

wkmac

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Cenk Uygur (The Young Turks) over the last week or so had an interview discussion with Jesse Ventura across a wide variety of topics including the election and who should be in the debates. One idea they broached and both agreed was that if a candidate is on enough ballots to mathematically win the electoral college, then they should be in the debates. Both Johnson and Stein are on enough ballots to win the electoral college. I like that idea as well.

I find it funny we all like to play both sides of the street as in using the popular vote or appearances of popular support when it supports our positions and then turn around and use the electoral college when that supports our positions. Jesse pointed out that when he ran for Governor, before his inclusion in the debates, he was polling around 9% and no signs of going higher yet once in the debates, he won the election. Maybe the reason Johnson and Stein are being excluded is a result of lessons learned.

The interview should you want to watch it. Good stuff, enjoyed it.

 

wkmac

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