Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
I don't want to work Saturday at all but you can bet your ass if I am I'm soaking up that $52 an hour as long as I can.
Friday the 25th, UPS forcing FT inside employees to work actual hours only - On Topic
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UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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Adjust your W-4 or all of that extra effort will be for naught.
(Ask you wife to explain "naught" to you.)
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
Not even remotely. I'll pay the exact same in annual taxes if I adjust my w-4 or not.
By The Book
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If they are in the full time classification....yes. Last I checked 22.3 jobs had an 8 hour guarantee.Unless your supplement has anything about a voluntary sign up list, it's an extra contract agreement which is null and void. Have we all worked for actual hours at one point or another in a 30 year career, absolutely.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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Yes, it all works out in the end, but I prefer the immediate gratification of a larger paycheck.
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
WDFD.
Instant gratification and all for naught are two completely different things.
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
No. Just double time.
The first one I worked I worked 10 hours and I assumed those last two hours would more but nope.
You can't pyramid over time
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
Booooo
Sorry brother , that's the way it is
Mugarolla
Light 'em up!
You quoted the contract correctly, but you are kind of in the middle here.
If you are required to work, you are guaranteed 8 hours. The problem is, UPS is saying you are not required to work because part of your job has been eliminated and you are getting paid for the Holiday.
If you do not agree to actual hours, you will be told not to come in and still collect your holiday pay.
If you grieve it, you cannot grieve it under Article 15 because UPS is saying you are not required to work.
Very good advice.
No it does not. It sounds to me from his post that if he doesn't agree to work actual that he will not be required to work on Friday. No 8 hour guarantee
Correct. If you're being forced. If he does not sign the paperwork, he will be told that his job is eliminated and to not report for work. Hence, not being forced to work.
Agreed. But if they tell you that your job is eliminated on Friday, you're going to come in and punch in anyway? Good luck winning that 8 hour guarantee grievance.
No problem with that. Again, they are not forcing the OP to come in. If he doesn't agree to actual, they will tell him he is not needed at all and to just stay home and collect his holiday pay.
This is one avenue that could be tried, although it is no guarantee. It may not be an extra contractual agreement. An employee can request actual pay within the contract. In this case, the employer is requesting it, but they can argue that the employee agreed to work actual.
Yes.
See my reply above. How do employees request 8 actual where you are? Signing something. I'm not saying that it would not be thrown out as an extra contractual agreement, but don't count on it.
This is uncharted waters. He is only guaranteed 24 hours this week due to 2 holidays, so they do not have to work him on Friday. He already has his guarantee. He is only guaranteed 8 hours on Friday if he is forced to work. If he does not agree to actual, he will not be required to work and still get his contractual weekly guarantee.
Can he sign it and claim extra contractual agreements are null and void? May win this, may not.
If he doesn't sign it and is told not to come in, can he grieve this and win it. Doubtful.
Can he claim less seniority employee working and he is not? Depends on the local's lay-off language.
Best advice......Check with your BA before Friday. He/She should know your Local's practices. But don't count on it 100% Like I said, uncharted waters. It may take a grievance and a panel decision to decide this.
Back first
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Thanks for the advice but I'm fairly certain I can take care of myself.[/QUOTE
I don't post a lot, but man you are abag. Go hang out with management some more.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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Learn how to properly quote and I will concern myself with what you have to say.
Back first
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Man you come across as such a
bag!
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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Man you come across as such a
Very good!
I do blur the line between confidence and arrogance.
There you go.
Turdferguson
Just a turd
That's like say there is a difference between a butthole and an A*hole
clean hairy
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Here is my 2 cents which may not be worth 2 Pesos.
This could fall under full time layoff, where the OP who is full time is being laid off from a part of their job.
Therefore, OP could displace a Jr Employee to get their 8 hours?
Would OP have a strong position for Management to state they do not wish to work actual hours, but to displace a Jr P/T under full time layoff language?
This could fall under full time layoff, where the OP who is full time is being laid off from a part of their job.
Therefore, OP could displace a Jr Employee to get their 8 hours?
Would OP have a strong position for Management to state they do not wish to work actual hours, but to displace a Jr P/T under full time layoff language?
