I have to agree with upstate. look ahead of what is coming down the road. I don't really care if you agree with me or not. You can go on with your heads up your a** or not. The fact is that we have a new health care law that I bet no one here has read and only heard what is stated in the news. The fact is I have read the whole thing and it sucks. It took about 4 months. So here is my word. The law in 2018 will hit both full time and part timers like a brick. I asked HR rep and he stated that UPS pays any where from 13500 to 14000 a year for part time health care and I called my plan to ask what is the cost for the whole year and the rep was telling the truth. Now we have health care plan that is going to be taxed at 40%, times by 13500=5400/12=480 dollors of tax a month to our health plan. Ask yourself this is UPS going to pay this amount for which is= to 18900 a year for each part timer. This is the list price for 2011 and with rates going up every year the price for insurance is going to go up much higher. So who will pay UPS or the employee? Who will pay? I don't know of any Part timers who can afford a type of payment like this. If you really think UPS will pay this because they have big hearts? They will either get rid of the health care plan or reduce benfits to a lower paying policy or we will pay for some of this. Now lets see the contract says our contract can not over ride local, state or federal law. If that is the case then the health care law is federal law so they can drop it with not breaking the contract without breaking the law. Now teamsters in my area pay for some if not all the full timers health care plans so yes full timers you could find yourself facing the same issue. Now lets us review, Teamsters pushed for this law to be passed. Do you really think that teasmters will pay a 40% tax for you. Lets us take the time to look at the plain fact unions pension funds are under funded. When they can use the money to place into the pension plans. Meaning they could take the money they would have paid for the health care and place it into the under funded pension plans. Teamsters pushed for a national health care plan to be run to by the gov. Do you really think the company and Teamsters will continue to pay for something when they can say sorry but the law allows both of us to do this and you can go to the exchanges now or the gov. run plan. UPS will agree to pay part timers a higher pay rate. Lets face it half of the part timers can now be on mom and dads plan until 26. There are so many factors coming down the road from this over rated law, wake up and see the Sh** coming. For a long time now people in this country have been sleeping at the wheel and not paying much attention to what our union is doing or our goverment. If you think the teamsters will not place you on the back burner to keep the union alive then I feel sorry for you. All I can say is really think about how this all linked and you will see what is coming. I could be wrong and will say so I'm but I have a feeling I'm not. I all comes to back to math and math and money and numbers go hand and hand with each other. Just look at the math it adds up to simple things. UPSTATE most of the time I don't like your post but you are on to something here. Just what I feel and think again I don't care if you agree or not. You guys have a good day and I don't say this very much but God bless you and all of us and whatever God you wordship, I have a feeling we are all going to have to believe in something before and after the sh** stop rolling.