Japan and South Korea both have a per capita suicide rate that is over 4 times higher than the United States. And private ownership of guns in those countries is virtually non-existent. So there is no link between suicide and easy availability of guns. And that is not a strawman.
Both of those countries, I believe, have a far different and nearly reverent view of suicide.
So if sociological issues are to blame for the high suicide rate in nations like Japan with little to no legal gun ownership...would it not be equally fair to blame sociological issues on the high murder rate in US cities like Chicago that also have little or no legal gun ownership?
I'm not "blaming" any single factor. but for you to bring up Japan and Korea without acknowledging the difference in attitudes toward suicide suggests it is you who is trying to have it both ways. And if it truly is sociological issues causing the gun violence, and we decide that gun laws absolutely are not the way to go, then we are left with adamantly and effectively addressing those issues.
Also, I often hear people despair at the high crime rate in Chicago and yet in 2014 articles were praising the decline of crime because of the increased number of conceal/carry permits being issued. The law remains the same, so is conceal/carry working or did some folks jump to the conclusion they wanted?
So is conceal/carry working?
Because if you look at the municipal laws as they stand today, all those restrictions are have a line through them.
You mean you might have a chance to save them if there isn't a gun but there is a knife to slit their wrists or a rope to hand themselves?
I honestly don't know. On the one hand I still hear people talk about Chicago's horrible crime rate and yet conceal/carry is alive and well in the Windy City. Weren't criminals supposed to become too afraid that someone might be packing; that "good guys" with guns would strike terror in the hearts of the "bad guys" with guns? Can you really suggest that it has?
But approved a lot more.
