How does scratch work?

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by Indecisi0n, Aug 10, 2011.

  1. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    I hear it's based on the time you punch in until the time you punch out. Also calculates the mileage you have driven for the day. If this is true does it hurt my "scratch time" if I punch in early? I like to go through my airs and truck because I am on a awlful route which requires you to do this. I'd rather do it before i leave then on the street. I'm getting paid since I punch in but was curious if it effects my scratch. I am just trying to understand it. Thanks guys.
     
  2. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Your paid time is calculated from your start time to the time you punch out, less unpaid meal times. No route "requires" you to work off the clock and, no, you are not getting paid simply because you punched in early. Your dispatch time is calculated from a number of elements, to include miles, COD's, stops, packages delivered and picked up, etc. Running "scratch" means you ran the route quicker than the dispatch time.
     
  3. Re-Raise

    Re-Raise Well-Known Member

    It doesn't matter when you punch in. Unless you your start time is changed you aren't being paid for it.
     
  4. grgrcr88

    grgrcr88 No It's not green grocer!

    You are noy being paid until the start time in the diad, DO NOT EVER WORK OFF THE CLOCK!!
     
  5. trplnkl

    trplnkl 555

    If you get hurt while sorting your truck before the designated start time (the one in the board) you can and possibly will be fired for dishonesty, falsifying company documents or any other number of reasons they can dream up.
     
  6. Tim Eagle

    Tim Eagle New Member

    scratch means delivering the route in the same time as the plan day.not over or under the same.
    your center has a "center standards file" that has all the routes time allowances.there are national allowances,such as pkg slection, cod,call tags,ect...
    you also have route allowances such as res/bussines.in my day we had ie ride with us an write down every stop,write down the speed-limit.now they do it on their computers.your sporh is leave bldg time to return bldg time.
     
  7. All Day

    All Day New Member

    I don't care how hard your route is........wait until your start time.....punch in.....then start doing your work.
     
  8. scratch

    scratch Least Best Moderator Staff Member

    How does Scratch work? I just take it one day at a time, and the packages all come off one stop at a time. Eventually my package car gets empty, and then I go home.:wink2:

    Seriously, all the above posts are true. The elusive "running scratch" is based on miles run, number of deliveries and pickups made, with a few time allowances built in like CODs, O/70s, and a few other thrown in. This mystical math formula used to reach this number seems to change from day to day now, its nothing that I worry about any more. I have days when I clock out after ten hours and am told the next morning that "I did a good job and made scratch". My worn out body tells me something else though. Its their numbers, not mine.
     
  9. ORLY!?!

    ORLY!?! Master Loader

    My heart goes out to them, and to you guys as well. People often forget, take for granted, how dangerous driving is over all. Wish your onroads and managers understood that more.
     
  10. ORLY!?!

    ORLY!?! Master Loader

    Oops, wrong thread, boy am I distracted. Must be getting old.
     
  11. menotyou

    menotyou bella amicizia

    I never once knew what scratch was, nor did I care. I worked my butt off and if that wasnt good enough, go suck an egg.**this post is in no way a reflection of my feelings of admiration for our beloved Scratch. :wink2:
     
  12. ORLY!?!

    ORLY!?! Master Loader

    I feel yea honey, all you can offer, dont like it, too bad.
     
  13. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    Ohhhhh. So my pay time doesn't start from when I punch in but by what my group start time is. I get it now. Thanks.
     
  14. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Scratch, according to the almighty steward TOS we have lost the allowance for O/70's.
     
  15. User Name

    User Name Only 230 Today?? lol

    My oncar the other day said that I almost scratched a route I ran the previous day (I ran .01) late. Lol Well the next day I sure as Heck didn't almost run scratch. .75 late. He probably should have been happy with scratch..
     
  16. whiskey

    whiskey New Member

    Scratch means donating your time to UPS. This means you can work off the clock before work, after work, or work through your lunch hour. Only then will you be able to run scratch. Any driver who tells you otherwise is a liar. I would say that nealy 100 percent in package would tell you otherwise.
    Good luck running scratch.
     
  17. chewbacca25

    chewbacca25 New Member

    "scratch" doesnt work...because when you run it they just put on more work. ever since EDD the time allowances are jacked up in our center. we have 2 to sometimes 4 different "loops" in one car, and somehow no time allowance is given now whereas in the past one got better time for doing different areas...its like EDD just incorporates it into your day and doesnt realize or care if you have to go out of your way to deliver stops across town. we had a guy that ran scratch or bonused everyday. the route started with 120 daily to 130 max...now he is at minimum 145 and on some days (like fridays mostly) he does upwards of 170...then when he comes back the boss is like "what took you so long?" or "you were overallowed" or "we need to get closer to SCRATCH" i say bah humbug. i know too i used to work through my lunch to make businesses and pickups...then they started having me do meet points and stops from other guys and their pickups. there really is ZERO incentive for working hard here. especially when the guy next to you gets paid the same amount or more to do less. :(
     
  18. chewbacca25

    chewbacca25 New Member

    wow, really? yall dont get o/70 allowance? i know we do, that sux
     
  19. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    Does your punch out time for leaving the building and entering the building have anything to do with it? Example if my scratch time was 7:00pm and I enter the building at 6:45pm but don't punch out until 7:15pm waiting for other trucks inside the building to park did I make scratch?
     
  20. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Nope and if you were to show 30 minutes of PM time in my center my center manager would have a fit.