Indecisi0n
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My plan workered
I know its is a waste of time......
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CaliforniaPaul
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Kinda like you.
FrigidFTSup
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Was probably going to a fraternity.
Cementups
Box Monkey
This is somewhat correct. What they do is actually over-oxenginate the water which makes them pass out. Once they are released into a holding tank with normal oxygen they return to normal like nothing ever happened.
I used to deliver cases of fish to a farm for their pond. They were just feeder fish but there would be 500 in a box that was maybe as big as 2 shoeboxes wrapped together. They're jammed in there shoulder to shoulder and then over-oxenginated to be able to make their journey. Drop them in the pond and within a few hours they are swimming around like nothing ever happened.
dannyboy
From the promised LAND
Hey Bud, you are almost right. The pure O2 is not what sedates the fish, there are other chemicals added to the water that do that. The pure O2 is for the fish to be able to live. After all, they breathe, and give off carbon dioxide just like we do. And after 24-40 hours in a small bag, the O2 is about gone, and the bag stinks badly. Right off hand, I don't remember what those chemicals are, but I use clove oil for short term sedation. Mix a little clove oil with some EverClear. 90 proof so it will mix with water, and the fish go belly up in about 60 seconds. You can also use acetone, but I prefer not. Then you can handle, do surgery, what ever you need them calm for the next 5-20 minutes. Put back into fresh water, and they are back to normal in 60 seconds or so. The professional stuff though is very $$ and since I don't ship fish out, no need for me to have it.
That being said, any fish I sell goes into a bag with pure O2 so they will have plenty of air to breathe as it dissolves into the water as the CO2 gets released. But they stay just as active as they do in the tanks.
That being said, any fish I sell goes into a bag with pure O2 so they will have plenty of air to breathe as it dissolves into the water as the CO2 gets released. But they stay just as active as they do in the tanks.
Cementups
Box Monkey
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dannyboy
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I was reminded while I "pondered" the name of the fish narcotic, that O2 will cause a narcotic effect on fish. But only under controlled situations. Dissolved O2 in water is very temperature dependent, which means the warmer the water, the less O2 it CAN hold. But in a controlled environment, you can super saturate the water, and the fish will have the same reaction as the ones where they use the MS222 I believe it is called. So again, you were a lot closer than my first post credited. That is also why fish that are tropical are shipped in insulated containers with a cool pack, to keep the water cooler to allow more O2 to "dissolve" in the water.
This same phenomenon occurs during the summer when a lot of ponds warm up. And if they are shallow, its worse. If you see fish at the surface in the mornings with their mouths above the surface, 99% of the time they are gasping for air, not looking for food as so many pond owners think. That's why it is always important to keep water falls running overnight, its life support for the fish.
Back on subject, I know that part time loaders, and many drivers are not aware that for those 6 boxes, I paid almost $1200 bucks to get them here intact and alive. I don't know that this is too much to ask?
I was reminded while I "pondered" the name of the fish narcotic, that O2 will cause a narcotic effect on fish. But only under controlled situations. Dissolved O2 in water is very temperature dependent, which means the warmer the water, the less O2 it CAN hold. But in a controlled environment, you can super saturate the water, and the fish will have the same reaction as the ones where they use the MS222 I believe it is called. So again, you were a lot closer than my first post credited. That is also why fish that are tropical are shipped in insulated containers with a cool pack, to keep the water cooler to allow more O2 to "dissolve" in the water.
This same phenomenon occurs during the summer when a lot of ponds warm up. And if they are shallow, its worse. If you see fish at the surface in the mornings with their mouths above the surface, 99% of the time they are gasping for air, not looking for food as so many pond owners think. That's why it is always important to keep water falls running overnight, its life support for the fish.
Back on subject, I know that part time loaders, and many drivers are not aware that for those 6 boxes, I paid almost $1200 bucks to get them here intact and alive. I don't know that this is too much to ask?
wilberforce15
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Orientation arrows mean the same thing to me as "No conveyors. Hand-carry only."
That is, they mean nothing. Anything that has to stay pointed in one direction doesn't belong in the system. Period.
That is, they mean nothing. Anything that has to stay pointed in one direction doesn't belong in the system. Period.
like the "do not stack" stickers
That's why you use a bigger box so the fish can turn around. Those big red arrows are just like the Fragile stickers people put on boxes they mean nothing nothing. When I first started working at UPS a old timers said when your having a bad day it always get better after you drop a TV...
O man did those big ole 19 inch tvs explode or what!
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