Massachusetts vote for Scott Brown . Save our Health care

brett636

Well-Known Member
Me, You, and Everybody else. Who's gonna vote to kill it and think they will be re-elected?

How about you pay my share so I don't have to. I could never understand why liberals are so generous with other people's money.

FYI, I have been preparing tax returns professionally for over 6 years now, and I can tell you with absolute certainty that you are not limited to only pay the taxes that your tax return says you owe.

And my congratulations to Scott Brown on his epic win. Lets hope this is the start of something good!
 

bbsam

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Staff member
How about you pay my share so I don't have to. I could never understand why liberals are so generous with other people's money.

FYI, I have been preparing tax returns professionally for over 6 years now, and I can tell you with absolute certainty that you are not limited to only pay the taxes that your tax return says you owe.

And my congratulations to Scott Brown on his epic win. Lets hope this is the start of something good!
Generous with other people's money? Liberals, or politicians? Be honest.
 

Lue C Fur

Evil member
“And let me say this, with respect to those who wish to harm us: I believe that our Constitution and laws exist to protect this nation. They do not grant rights and privileges to enemies in wartime. In dealing with terrorists, our tax dollars should pay for weapons to stop them, not lawyers to defend them.” -Scott Brown

That was a great quote from Brown. Hopefully he is just the start of good things to come.

"Im Scott Brown and i drive a truck".:happy-very:
 

over9five

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Staff member
There is hope for the entire nation today. If this can happen in the bluest state, it can easily happen anywhere. There are a LOT of scared Democrats waking up in Washington today. There jobs are really on the line if they keep backing Obama.
 

UPS Lifer

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There is hope for the entire nation today. If this can happen in the bluest state, it can easily happen anywhere. There are a LOT of scared Democrats waking up in Washington today. Their jobs are really on the line if they keep backing Obama.

It is a win - win -
If the Chicago machine doe not wake up and stays defiant and does not care that most of America is angry with what they are doing... they won't be around after November. Pelosi, Boxer & Reed - make no mistake ... you are next!
 

island1fox

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:happy-very:I am a proud Yankee Fan ---but I truly want to thank the people of Massachusetts !!!!!
I only hope that all of the American people will learn from this and follow in their footsteps.
We all have to stop voting"party line"
We should vote on what is best for America and all of us.
Every politician makes great promises --if they break them --vote them out !!!!
We have to develop longer memories--Obama is still planning to ram this Health plan fiasco through --because he believes in three years we will forget !!!
Any Incumbant --left or right that does not work for all of us --should be held accountable and voted out ---WE should have the power not ANY of them !!!!:peaceful:
 

tieguy

Banned
this election goes beyond the normal right / left banter for me.I'm not fooling myself. A republican elected to that job is probably very moderate and he made a point of not playing up his republican connections. Still a republican winning kennedys old seat is real political change. No politician should ever be able to hold the same job for 47 years.
 

UPS Lifer

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this election goes beyond the normal right / left banter for me.I'm not fooling myself. A republican elected to that job is probably very moderate and he made a point of not playing up his republican connections. Still a republican winning kennedys old seat is real political change. No politician should ever be able to hold the same job for 47 years.

As proven in MA, the independents hold the key to change. This was true in the presidential election as well. Independents tend to be more moderate than conservative. The people in the middle are the ones who make a difference.

The Democrats have been very arrogant and have shown a lot of disrespect to those who do not follow their ideas. To call those who are affiliated with the Tea party as Un-American and referring to top Republican leaders as imbeciles shows that the Democratic party is more important than bi-partisanship and what is good for the USA.

Scott has described himself as a Scott Republican and someone who will represent the people. Amen to that! I am personally getting tired of the cookie cutter politician right or left. I want someone who is going to break the mold and buck the established system. ....and do it because that is what his/her constituency wants not because the "party" wants it.
 

over9five

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Staff member
Did you hear the idiotic Democrat spin control today? It was great for a laugh, they still blamed Bush!!!

They just don't get it.
 

island1fox

Well-Known Member
:wink2:Scott Brown for President !!!!!!!

Scott will force Health care reform that will benefit all---- not just the obama special interests groups :peaceful: !!!!!!
 

moreluck

golden ticket member
:sad-little:Our president's logic really sucks....He says the voters were not angry with him, but were angry for the past 8 years.....yeah, so that's why they put in a Republican?? Dimwit!!
 

Jones

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I don't live in Mass, don't know much about either candidate, and politics tend to be local. But this seems like a fairly balanced assessment:
Brown Wins in Massachusetts [SIZE=-3]Permalink[/SIZE]

Two weeks ago it seemed inconceivable that Democrat Martha Coakley could lose the special election in Masachusetts to Republican Scott Brown, but she managed to do it. Brown won 52% to 47%, with the Libertarian candidate getting the remaining 1%. Here are the polling results from pollster.com

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From the graph, it is clear that Coakley completely collapsed in a very short time. There were no exit polls so it is hard to tell exactly what happened, but from the pre-election polling it is clear that Republicans were highly motivated, Democrats were not, and independents liked Brown better than Coakley.
There are a lot of ways one can spin this and all are likely to be tried in the next 24 hours and beyond. First, Coakley was a poor candidate and Brown was a good one. That's certainly true but it is not the whole story. The national Democrats will try to lay the entire blame at her feet, but that's unfair. She was only part of the problem.
Second, when people are hurting, as many are now, they need someone to blame and with the Democrats controlling both the White House and Congress, they are the obvious targets. Since President Obama campaigned for Coakley, he can hardly say he was only dimly aware of the race and its not his fault.
But probably the most fundamental reason for Coakley's loss is that the Democrats were elected in 2008 to provide change and failed to do it. When the banks collapsed due to their own recklessness, they were bailed out. When the auto industry came begging, it was bailed out. The health-insurance bill battle dragged on and on, in no small part because Sen. Max Baucus (D-MT) was desperate to get one Republican vote. For a lot of people, the Democrats care as little for them as the Republicans do and they were punished for that.
Contrast the Democrat's approach to what the Republicans did in 2000 after an extremely narrow and highly contested victory. They said: "We won, you lost, and now we are going to enact our program." They used the budget reconciliation process to ram through the Bush tax cuts. To a lot of people, this shows that the Republicans stand for something and are willing to fight hard for what they believe in. Americans like decisiveness.
Undoubtedly, some Democrats are going to use this election to say the sky is falling and they should be more like Republicans while others will say that those people who like the Republicans will prefer real Republicans to fake ones. Expect much infighting in the coming days and weeks.
As to the health-insurance bill, the Democrats have a couple of options as discussed here yesterday. First, they can try to settle their internal differences today, get a CBO score, and pass the bill before senator-elect Brown is seated in early February. Second, they could try to get the House to pass the Senate bill intact and then make changes to it using the budget reconciliation process, which can't be filibustered. Of course, option three is abandon the whole project and then show up in November empty handed, which will guarantee a Republican landslide.
Clearly, Obama's plans for 2010 are strongly affected by this election. Getting actual legislation through the Senate will be very difficult because Republicans don't want to pass legislation; they want him to fail. From their point of view, that is an excellent strategy. The Democrats will get credit for any legislation, so the Republicans' best hope is that there isn't any. But still, Obama has the power to frame the debate and if used wisely, could paint the Republicans into a corner by forcing them to oppose popular issues like reining in the banks. Another issue he could push is immigration reform, which pits the grassroots Republicans (opposed to it) against the big-business Republicans (in favor of it). But any way you slice it, the Republicans are stronger today than they were yesterday.
 
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