Is there one? really. Im a steward and they been giving a guy a hard time about misloads and give him a warning letter. I just told him not to sign anything. Any advice? thanks
Is there one? really. Im a steward and they been giving a guy a hard time about misloads and give him a warning letter. I just told him not to sign anything. Any advice? thanks
What does your contract say about this issue?Is there one? really. Im a steward and they been giving a guy a hard time about misloads and give him a warning letter. I just told him not to sign anything. Any advice? thanks
Good advice. Don't sign anything, period. Drivers move stops around, supervisors, other people. There is no good in signing the written warning letter. I have never had nor heard a steward recommending throwing yourself under the bus. Management needs to blame someone besides themselves when it comes time to be judged via #'s. In case they want to try to fire or lay off someone in the future, those written warning letters that are signed will be right there in the office.
Is there one? really. Im a steward and they been giving a guy a hard time about misloads and give him a warning letter. I just told him not to sign anything. Any advice? thanks
you folks generally do everything to avoid taking responsibility for your mistakes. thats the nature of the beast. Meanwhile a refused to sign on the document shows an un cooperative employee that refuses to admit his mistakes. good material for the panel. You outhouse lawyers advising them not to sign generally help us build a better case for discharge.
you folks generally do everything to avoid taking responsibility for your mistakes. thats the nature of the beast. Meanwhile a refused to sign on the document shows an un cooperative employee that refuses to admit his mistakes. good material for the panel. You outhouse lawyers advising them not to sign generally help us build a better case for discharge.
you folks generally do everything to avoid taking responsibility for your mistakes. thats the nature of the beast. Meanwhile a refused to sign on the document shows an un cooperative employee that refuses to admit his mistakes. good material for the panel. You outhouse lawyers advising them not to sign generally help us build a better case for discharge.
you folks generally do everything to avoid taking responsibility for your mistakes. thats the nature of the beast. Meanwhile a refused to sign on the document shows an un cooperative employee that refuses to admit his mistakes. good material for the panel. You outhouse lawyers advising them not to sign generally help us build a better case for discharge.
Is there one? really. Im a steward and they been giving a guy a hard time about misloads and give him a warning letter. I just told him not to sign anything. Any advice? thanks
Did the sups "council " (ups's word) the person first about misorts . Did they talk to him in your presence about misorts ? If they didn't they cannot issue a warning letter. Did they talk to him with respect and concern or use rough tactics? Did they use proper progressive discipline? Make sure you keep written notes, who, when and where. Your job is to defend the person to make sure he is treated fairley and also to council him to try not to make mistakes. This may mean telling him to take his time ( slow down) and be more carful no matter what the sups say about more speed (a common tactic) I do not care what they say nothing in the contract says anything about packages per hour.
PS If he doesn't want to sign he doesn't have to
Do not ever sign something you disagree with.
EVER
By the way tieguy you use the word we in refering to the "company" I know in Brown school they taught you that you are important and the decisions you make are important but I am sure outside of your little world no one knows who you are in the Big Brown.
Outhouse supervisor.
A very inteligent response just like I expected thanks for proving my point.Gee whiz I dun think you hurt my feelings with that one. Guess what My friend if I iz de outhouse supervisor den dat makes you one of deez brown things floatin around in de bowl.
H---- that is what I was trying to say.Take your time to make sure you do the job right.But not everyone has the same ability to read, scan ,and load at the same rate.And lets not forget the itimatation factor its hard to work correctley sometimes with the Hitler Youth screaming at you.As long as your are using proper methods and doing your best i.e. (no misloads) why would management want to disipline you?For a few less packages an hour.You most certainly can be disciplined for slowing down or speed. If a supervisor does an ojt on an employee and the employee demonstrates a certain piece per hour (pph) he needs to maintain that. Some supervisors or managers will bring that up during a formal discipline meeting and the employee could be disciplined for failure to maintain job standards. My recomendation for you would be to talk with the employee and try and council him on the methods of his job. If he follows the prescribed methods and follows the supervisor's instruction's to the tee, your employee will slow down on his own due to UPS methods.
Call your local and get some Weingarten Cards and give them out . The employee in matters of displine has the right to representation.If he wasn't repremanded in your's or another stewards presence the warning letter is not worth the paper it is written on. Call your local and advise your BA of the situation. They will protest the letter.One of the many sups we got come to me friday and said we had a talk with so and so about his misloads and we had to give him a warning letter but they move this boy around all the time to different trucks and hes not the only one with misloads. i asked him if he signed anything he said he was never asked to sign anything and yes they talked to him without my presence. The sup asked me if i was mad about talking to him without me there and i said yes of course.
you folks generally do everything to avoid taking responsibility for your mistakes. thats the nature of the beast. Meanwhile a refused to sign on the document shows an un cooperative employee that refuses to admit his mistakes. good material for the panel. You outhouse lawyers advising them not to sign generally help us build a better case for discharge.