Now I understand what you mean

[Johney]

Love you brother Just busting your balls.

I know.

 

[Indecisi0n]

Keep it civil men

 

[Johney]

Keep it civil men

Mind your own business feeder boy.

 

[Johney]

Keep it civil men

By the way shouldn't you be working tonight?

 

[Bubblehead]

You're lucky then. As a cover driver, they can send me home when they wish. They told me I was a "Full Time Permanent" when I applied, and during the hiring process. But as I understand, there is a summer free break period that doesn't count during your probationary period. I don't know the exact days of the summer free break period, but I'm in the central region.

Seniority starts on the first day you start driving your training route, correct?

Need more info...

Are you off street, or from the inside part time ranks?
If you're from the inside, did you sign a "vacation replacement agreement"?

 

[burrheadd]

Summer absolutely does count. It’s not a free period.

It is in the central

 

[take your time]

Need more info...

Are you off street, or from the inside part time ranks?
If you're from the inside, did you sign a "vacation replacement agreement"?

Off the streets guy. I didn't know that it's better to be inside, you are already an employee.

 

[take your time]

It is in the central

Oh I see. Is this information (summer free break period) in the Central Region Teamster Agreement? Or just something that is done randomly.

 

[cosis]

at least you get paid well, only positive thing to say

 

[burrheadd]

Oh I see. Is this information (summer free break period) in the Central Region Teamster Agreement? Or just something that is done randomly.

It’s in the supplement

 

[Indecisi0n]

By the way shouldn't you be working tonight?

I have more time to post on forums while at work than home now.

 

[TheMachine]

I’ll give my sup and manager credit, every morning they shake my hand and are genuine. If you work hard they treat you seriously.

UPS is a real grind, you must work hard and go through the BS. The hiring process is the same in my area, the job says full time but it is always seasonal to start and you work two seasons before being hired full time.

Then once you are “in” you grind out another four years until you hit top rate, grinding out seniority in the process. All things considered, it’s a decently paid job with benefits. Could be worse off in life.

 

[take your time]

I’ll give my sup and manager credit, every morning they shake my hand and are genuine. If you work hard they treat you seriously.

UPS is a real grind, you must work hard and go through the BS. The hiring process is the same in my area, the job says full time but it is always seasonal to start and you work two seasons before being hired full time.

Then once you are “in” you grind out another four years until you hit top rate, grinding out seniority in the process. All things considered, it’s a decently paid job with benefits. Could be worse off in life.

Two seasons, as in Summer and Peak?

 

[A good guy]

Im in the same boat op.

Best advice I've heard is from old timers and people from here. Although our centers supervisors are pretty laid back. Not nearly as bad as some of these drivers have it.

 

[Bubblehead]

Off the streets guy. I didn't know that it's better to be inside, you are already an employee.

It is in the central

It’s in the supplement

Article 16 for "vacation replacement", Article 1 for "seasonal"....

 

[cosis]

I’ll give my sup and manager credit, every morning they shake my hand and are genuine. If you work hard they treat you seriously.

UPS is a real grind, you must work hard and go through the BS. The hiring process is the same in my area, the job says full time but it is always seasonal to start and you work two seasons before being hired full time.

Then once you are “in” you grind out another four years until you hit top rate, grinding out seniority in the process. All things considered, it’s a decently paid job with benefits. Could be worse off in life.

Yeah could improve the uniform. Literally look like a brown turd straight out of someones ass.

 

[take your time]

Article 16 for "vacation replacement", Article 1 for "seasonal"....

I see it:

"No time worked by a new hire in a second or subsequent consecutive free period shall count toward seniority."

This is the one you were referring too, right? (Summer Free Period)

 

[old levi's]

New guy at UPS. Hired off the street for a cover position package driver about 6 weeks ago. I was reading the forums for a while, and thought to myself "It can't be as bad as these guys make it seem". But now I understand.

When an employee goes in thinking "I'm going to do the right thing, I'm going to be a good driver, etc." those thoughts are gone once you get a hold of the Managers, H.R people, and the supervisors.

Most of the veteran drivers I see every morning don't give a about anything (since they are protected by seniority), the supervisors are running around like chickens with their heads cut off. Management tries to sit in their office and act like big shots, pretending to be too busy to speak to drivers. Amazing.

A long time ago things were different, but it reached a point where I just worked for them, and they paid me well.
That's where our relationship began, and ended.

 

[john chesney]

New guy at UPS. Hired off the street for a cover position package driver about 6 weeks ago. I was reading the forums for a while, and thought to myself "It can't be as bad as these guys make it seem". But now I understand.

When an employee goes in thinking "I'm going to do the right thing, I'm going to be a good driver, etc." those thoughts are gone once you get a hold of the Managers, H.R people, and the supervisors.

Most of the veteran drivers I see every morning don't give a about anything (since they are protected by seniority), the supervisors are running around like chickens with their heads cut off. Management tries to sit in their office and act like big shots, pretending to be too busy to speak to drivers. Amazing.

I think we all probably said it can’t be that bad when we started. I remember saying it can’t be worse then working this preload. No one can ever understand this job until you do it. Forget trying to explain it to anyone on the outside they could never understand

 

[john chesney]

New guy at UPS. Hired off the street for a cover position package driver about 6 weeks ago. I was reading the forums for a while, and thought to myself "It can't be as bad as these guys make it seem". But now I understand.

When an employee goes in thinking "I'm going to do the right thing, I'm going to be a good driver, etc." those thoughts are gone once you get a hold of the Managers, H.R people, and the supervisors.

Most of the veteran drivers I see every morning don't give a about anything (since they are protected by seniority), the supervisors are running around like chickens with their heads cut off. Management tries to sit in their office and act like big shots, pretending to be too busy to speak to drivers. Amazing.

Get back with me in 35 years and tell me how you feel after that. Just try to imagine that