Psssstt, the world isn't going to end. Now is the time to get in while everyone with the "doom is near, hide your money under a mattress" preach the end of the economy. When all you hear on the news is bad, you start to believe it. Stop watching nightly news, take a look at all the investment opportunities on sale.so why would someone my age just now starting with this company care about a pension? it wont be here when its time for me to retire (neither will social security), and i dont really understand how our 401k is setup, im putting in 3% right now and are they matching that? (union or ups or is it just earning off which ever mutual fund its in without a company match?) and even that is total crap when the markets collapse like dominoes in the next couple years, wouldn't the best thing to do at my age is to put my money into a savings account, and take that money every month and buy precious metals? maybe some commodity futures? hmm
It will get better, this isn't the first time the economy has taken a dive. American drive and ingenuity always prevails, look at Apple. Apple is an American company that revolutionized cell phones and tablets creating competition/marketplace. Back in the 80's Apple was close to bankruptcy yet they rose from the ashes and is now worth more than small European countries.lol going to get worse before its gets any better, only time will tell.
Unions don't keep pensions, they administer them. I'm in a green zone plan that's been union administered for nearly 70 years. Still going strong even after the 2008 Wall street disaster.Not if the union keeps the pension.
That's my plan. I have no hope that there will be a pension (at least like what they led us to believe 25 years ago).You need to be maxing out your 401k and an Ira if possible. I'm taking care of my own retirement and if I happen to have a pension and social security when I retire well that will all be play money.
Anyone think a pension will be around for me (24, full time driver) when i retire in 2041! It probably wont be, the world will be a different place, hell the world will be a different place in 10 years!
Back in 81 when I started I was 30..When contract times came around all the younger guys wanted $$$ now in their paychecks..I always thought I made decent wage and thought that it was in our best interests to fund the pension plan...because before you know it you approach retirement age and then you can look back and say " I am sure glad the pension was funded all those years" Retired in 08 and happy to be retired now and to all you younger guys....Get involved with the Union, Back them, if not for them I would not be where I am today..No matter what you think of the Union...Ups would be really making things hard for you and you would not have the benefits you have today and nothing would please UPS more than to get rid of all the older drivers and little by little go more and more P/T...And as I saw over my 25+ yrs many drivers quit after many years after dealing with all the BS and harrasment dished out daily
Back in 81 when I started I was 30..When contract times came around all the younger guys wanted $$$ now in their paychecks..I always thought I made decent wage and thought that it was in our best interests to fund the pension plan...because before you know it you approach retirement age and then you can look back and say " I am sure glad the pension was funded all those years" Retired in 08 and happy to be retired now and to all you younger guys....Get involved with the Union, Back them, if not for them I would not be where I am today..No matter what you think of the Union...Ups would be really making things hard for you and you would not have the benefits you have today and nothing would please UPS more than to get rid of all the older drivers and little by little go more and more P/T...And as I saw over my 25+ yrs many drivers quit after many years after dealing with all the BS and harrasment dished out daily
Can someone PM me what The Milkman is saying. I can`t read what he wrote.