stolen parcels

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

That's a good idea, add trespassing to the forgery charge.

TSG, we are actually instructed to do that, whether it be in the case such as this or, more often, when doing a driver follow up and, guess what, it works!! I have had several DFUs where I have gone around back to the trash cans and pulled out the empty box, with the shipping label intact, matched it up with the 1Z on the DFU, and brought the box back to the center. Needless to say we don't pay that claim and, depending on the dollar value, get the local authorities involved.

 

[ImpactedTSG]

TSG, we are actually instructed to do that, whether it be in the case such as this or, more often, when doing a driver follow up and, guess what, it works!! I have had several DFUs where I have gone around back to the trash cans and pulled out the empty box, with the shipping label intact, matched it up with the 1Z on the DFU, and brought the box back to the center. Needless to say we don't pay that claim and, depending on the dollar value, get the local authorities involved.

Is it legal to go through someone's trash on their property? I would think it's not, but honestly I'm not sure.

 

[over9five]

Salesguy, leave it to you to turn a thread about stolen parcels in to a pitch for sales leads. You could probably sell an air conditioner to an Eskimo.

He could probably sell an Amish Fireplace to somebody in Hell too. I will say one thing, at least he is consistent!

Nothin' wrong with being commited to your job. Nice going, Salesguy!!

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Is it legal to go through someone's trash on their property? I would think it's not, but honestly I'm not sure.

Most driver follow ups that I have are for apartments and/or student housing so the trash cans are generally on the side of the building and easily accessible. This would become more of an issue at a single family home. I do agree that this may have legal issues associated with it but it has proven to be effective (at least for me).

The OP simply took a shortcut that has now come back to bite him on the butt. Whether he finds the missing pkgs or not is immaterial--he was not following the methods and should feel lucky that all he has to do is reimburse the company.

 

[trplnkl]

Originally Posted by ImpactedTSG
Is it legal to go through someone's trash on their property? I would think it's not, but honestly I'm not sure.

I'm pretty sure it is, plus evidence gathered without a warrant from a persons personal property is not admissible in a court.
Although, in my city, the dumpsters are in an alley which is city property.


UpState, I can't see how a community trash can/dumpster could really help you much on this. Anyone could have taken the package and thrown the empty box out. Retrieving the empty box would only prove it was left.....somewhere in the area.

BUT, I agree with you on the last paragraph.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

I'm pretty sure it is, plus evidence gathered without a warrant from a persons personal property is not admissible in a court.
Although, in my city, the dumpsters are in an alley which is city property.


UpState, I can't see how a community trash can/dumpster could really help you much on this. Anyone could have taken the package and thrown the empty box out. Retrieving the empty box would only prove it was left.....somewhere in the area.

BUT, I agree with you on the last paragraph.

Trp, good point. I do know that it has worked for me in the past. There is something about standing in front of the consignee with the empty box in hand that tends to make those who may be less than truthful fess up.

 

[Bubblehead]

Wonder how it played out for original poster. I mean troll.

 

[trplnkl]

Trp, good point. I do know that it has worked for me in the past. There is something about standing in front of the consignee with the empty box in hand that tends to make those who may be less than truthful fess up.

Oh, I can see how that would work, but the person needs to have a bit of a conscience for it to work. I'm glad to hear that it worked for you.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Oh, I can see how that would work, but the person needs to have a bit of a conscience for it to work. I'm glad to hear that it worked for you.

Your point is most certainly valid in that an empty box found in a community trash can/dumpster does not necessarily mean that the original consignee did indeed receive the pkg but you can tell an awful lot by the look on their face when you show them the empty box.

 

[User Name]

Had two pkgs that needed signature, both had a sign on the door saying that the package didn't need a signature. According to the diad and the packages it states something different. I put on the note that it did need a signature and left the delivery notice. Later that day get message in the diad to bring pkgs to the clerk for same day will call. Easy as pie.

 

[IWorkAsDirected]

Yea we've had a guy who was "stealing" a companies pre-filled NDA labels and using them to send his car payments NDA out of state.

Also had a guy who had rolls of labels who would scan and invent stops with the same labels day after day.

Also back when Cash was accepted we had a guy taking the C.O.D. money and hitting the Casino on his lunch.

Last but not least we had a guy loose his mind park on a bridge and start throwing packages off the bridge...(he didn't lose his job)

WOW! And I thought UPS was just paranoid!

 

[NJ12hrday]

Nothing is ever worth your job. Follow the methods and don't do any favors. No favor is worth your job. Is the customer going to pay for your mortgage, food for your wife and kids, etc.

 

[rocket man]

Why would a bussiness have a signed delivery notice?

 

[brownmonster]

I have several business's with signed delivery notices. For instance a movie theatre. Not open during the day so I have a key and leave the pkgs.

 

[UPS44GAL]

today i delivered 2 parcels to a business that was closed, front door was open and there was a sdn on the door. 1 of the 2 pkgs was a sig. Req.
I left both pkgs at the inside door, and customer called and said she couldnt find the parcels. Someone stole them. Whats going to happen since i actually put customers name in the board, she was not there to sign for them... Am i gonna get fired

make sure you keep that sdn..

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

On a related note, we have a cover driver who is currently on the hook for a bounced check. He was supposed to get a certified check/money order but took a company check and it bounced. The check was for just over $2,600. The regular driver is working with the customer and thinks that he will make good on the check but is not 100% sure.

Just a quick update. Turns out the pkg was not certified check/money order. It's the bank that is asking for a money order to replace the check that b-b-b-bounced. And, to top it all off, the business will most likely be out of business within a month or two so the shipper may never see a dime of that money and will end up joining the other creditors waiting for money.

 

[DownWithUPS]

Its been a week since the stolen parcels incident. i think customer filed a claim, just havent heard anything about it on my end. Value for the pkgs on the follow up form is $99.00.

 

[rod]

Its been a week since the stolen parcels incident. i think customer filed a claim, just havent heard anything about it on my end. Value for the pkgs on the follow up form is $99.00.

In this situation - No news is good news

 

[backinbrown]

you do know that if disciplined you cant be asked to pay for item lost, it is one or the other i believe.

 

[hdkappler]

Whatever you do be up front and honest when they ask you about what happened. Often times a first offense will result in a suspension varying on the value of the package and your standing in the managements eyes. (do they feel the need to teach you a lesson?) It's possible another person at the company picked up the packages and they will find them tomorrow. Make it clear that your "error in judgment" was an attempt to "help" the customer.

It's not an excuse. You broke the rules. But I've seen it happen to more than one driver and it never resulted in a total job loss. They received "notice of terminations" and they were reduced to suspensions.

i was with brown30 years it happened a few times.course it was in old days so i paid for it.one sup told me if you door knob put a note on other door.this was years ago.