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The ones that say you're not "independent". This makes sense after the recent effort by FDX to distance itself from contractors. In other words, they are worried.

Now, please respond and tell me the ISP is legally bullet-proof like always.

ISP is not legally bullet proof. But that does not mean that if it is shown to be lacking that another model won't take it's place.

Are you really saying that ISP the next domino to fall? Because two things come to mind:

1. It still hasn't even been challenged.

2. 20 years to make it fall is not a domino falling; it's another generation taking it's place.

 

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ISP is not legally bullet proof. But that does not mean that if it is shown to be lacking that another model won't take it's place.

Are you really saying that ISP the next domino to fall? Because two things come to mind:

1. It still hasn't even been challenged.

2. 20 years to make it fall is not a domino falling; it's another generation taking it's place.

I would say that is more like rock erosion.

 

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It's being looked at more closely by the irs and the dept. of labor because of companies like lyft and uber(which are both more independent than you guys). If you have been working for fedex oops I mean contracting with fedex for anytime at all you know it's just a matter of time before they terminate an isps contract or screw one of you guys off enough to do something about it. The snowball is gaining speed!!!

 

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It's being looked at more closely by the irs and the dept. of labor because of companies like lyft and uber(which are both more independent than you guys). If you have been working for fedex oops I mean contracting with fedex for anytime at all you know it's just a matter of time before they terminate an isps contract or screw one of you guys off enough to do something about it. The snowball is gaining speed!!!

Screws one of us off?? Well that is one thing they haven't done to me yet. To my knowledge none of the guys I know have been screwed off. Couple pretty dirty contractors in my hub, they would see that as a huge perk.

 

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You will find out what it means soon enough

 

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You will find out what it means soon enough

Probably not before you choke to death on your bitter tears of rejection.

 

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They are not too tasty, and you are not my enemy. Even though you seem to want to defend fedex at every turn. We can agree to disagree, I think it will be challenged and I know law makers are looking really close at independent contractor/employee classifications.

 

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They are not too tasty, and you are not my enemy. Even though you seem to want to defend fedex at every turn. We can agree to disagree, I think it will be challenged and I know law makers are looking really close at independent contractor/employee classifications.

Just because I'm not running to get my pitch-fork does not mean I'm defending Fedex. It means I think this plan of attack is foolish.

 

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Just because I'm not running to get my pitch-fork does not mean I'm defending Fedex. It means I think this plan of attack is foolish.

I think he's right. The Feds are looking much more closely at employee classification. The ISP may hold-up, but don't count on it. Fred's business, Fred's show, and Fred's decisions. You are just there to make it all look legit.

 

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I think he's right. The Feds are looking much more closely at employee classification. The ISP may hold-up, but don't count on it. Fred's business, Fred's show, and Fred's decisions. You are just there to make it all look legit.

Other models that the feds are looking at are.going down because of tax and regulatory compliance issues. FDX has done a very good.job of that with Ground in the past decade.

 

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Just because I'm not running to get my pitch-fork does not mean I'm defending Fedex. It means I think this plan of attack is foolish.

You feel attacked, for that I'm sorry or do you feel like I'm attacking your master.

 

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You feel attacked, for that I'm sorry or do you feel like I'm attacking your master.

I don't feel attacked. I think you don't reason through what you see and instead substitute what you want to see.

 

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Am I the one missing something? Or could it be you? To stay alive in this scam for all the time you've been at fedex you had to do whatever they said for a long time(I know you did not sign the last addendum, you rebel) but just don't follow them over they edge.

 

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Am I the one missing something? Or could it be you? To stay alive in this scam for all the time you've been at fedex you had to do whatever they said for a long time(I know you did not sign the last addendum, you rebel) but just don't follow them over they edge.

I do enough so that they leave me alone but 90% of the time it's just not that intrusive.

 

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I do enough so that they leave me alone but 90% of the time it's just not that intrusive.

If you were independent it would 100% of the time.

 

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If you were independent it would 100% of the time.

You have just shown you ignorance of contract law.

 

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Laws could be changing. 90% seems like low estimate.

 

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Laws could be changing. 90% seems like low estimate.

Do you know anything about "degree of control"?

 

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I can rattle off about ten things in the contract that are well over whatever degree of control you are talking about.