What's the steps to filling a greviance?

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by The Chosen 1, Sep 21, 2016.

  1. The Chosen 1

    The Chosen 1 God, Family, UPSer

    August 31, 2016 I double shifted on the day sort for 4 hours and wasn't paid for those hours worked. I spoke to two different pt sups on the day shift who had me write down my name, hours worked, and employee ID# and they ensured they would put my time in so I could get paid. Well guess what, needless to say I still haven't got paid for those hours... I've also spoken to a union steward in my hub about it and all he says is "Let me talk to him (sup) and see if he'll pay you for those hours worked". As I am tired of the run around and it going on 4 weeks what/how do I go about filing a greviance to get paid and would I be entitled to penalty pay?
     
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  2. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    You would be entitled to the 4 hours but nothing more as you only have 10 days to file.
     
  3. The Chosen 1

    The Chosen 1 God, Family, UPSer

    10 days from the date the incident occurred?
     
  4. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Yuppers.

    That would be 2 pay periods. More than enough time to report the shortage and then file the grievance when the error was not reconciled.

    As I said, you are entitled to the 4 hours, but not the penalty pay as you failed to file in s timely manner.
     
  5. gorilla75jdw

    gorilla75jdw Active Member

    Get a grievance from the steward, file article 17 and put "ongoing" in the description so that you get penalty pay for every week they do not correct it .
     
  6. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    They will adjust it by the next pay period.
     
  7. PASinterference

    PASinterference Yes, I know I'm working late.

    That's even more annoying that "yup". Who taught you yanks how to talk?
     
  8. gorilla75jdw

    gorilla75jdw Active Member

    Let's hope they do , but if they don't (as it has happened to me and I'm sure a few thousand other folk's ) , he will have a grievance in play to ascertain that his pay is getting attention.
     
  9. dookie stain

    dookie stain Well-Known Member

    Still waiting on my vacation check :)
     
  10. 35years

    35years Active Member

    Did you file today?
    It is on you to get it done.
    If your steward isn't helping,
    contact your BA.
    File immediately.
     
  11. dookie stain

    dookie stain Well-Known Member

    Was gonna do it when I go back on Monday
     
  12. 35years

    35years Active Member

    Have you ever filed a grievance Dave?

    The "occurrence" happened September 9th when he did not receive his full pay.
    That would give him until the 19th to inform management of the "occurrence".
    He said he talked to 2 sups who said they would make sure he got paid.
    It is very likely he spoke to them before the 19th.
    He also spoke to a steward, perhaps before the 19th.

    It sounds like he was missing pay on the 9th, informed management and steward the following week (11th to 17th).
    After reassuring him he would be paid his hours, they failed to cut a green check.
    If this is the case, I would venture to say he satisfied the 10 day requirement by informing management by the 19th, but they failed to resolve it in a timely manner.
    Their failure to adjust his pay for the 16th (or cut a green check) could be considered the "occurrence"
    The OP should file ASAP, and ask for the penalty pay, along with wording that makes it clear this is ongoing.

    Filing immediately would not hurt, and would only expedite the process.

    If for example he was harassed one month ago and the harassment is ongoing, do you think he lost the right to file just because the first occurrence was a month ago? The shortage is ongoing. File.
     
  13. Returntosender

    Returntosender Well-Known Member

    Point of knowledge grievance is something I heard in the past. From what I understand it's when the management withholds information from the employee.
     
  14. hondo

    hondo promoted to mediocrity

    @The Chosen 1 : don't forget to check your supplement, some of that time double-shifting may qualify for premium (time-and-a-half) pay
     
  15. The Chosen 1

    The Chosen 1 God, Family, UPSer

    Well said! This is exactly how it happened.
     
  16. The Chosen 1

    The Chosen 1 God, Family, UPSer

    Absolutely, all 4 hours worked qualify for time and a half (1 1/2) as I worked 5 hours on my normal preload shift. It's article 49 sec. 1 in our supplement.
     
  17. 35years

    35years Active Member

    You snooze you lose.
    Don't let the 10 day rule cost you 4 hours of pay. File Friday.