10 questions for Republicans

[BadIdeaGuy]

Yeah, but they love their guns - gotta protect themselves and what they earned from the lazy, violent, criminal element that they're so afraid of, that it informs their every decision in life and the voting booth.

It has been studied to death, and determined that republicans are truly fear based people. There are exceptions to this, sure. But taken as a whole, that's who they are and what they represent. That's what they base their decisions, rhetoric, and policy on.

No.

Let me pull the definition for you:

Conservatism:

commitment to traditional values and ideas with opposition to change or innovation.

And regarding politics especially:

the holding of political views that favor free enterprise, private ownership, and socially conservative ideas.

The word "fear" is absent in both definitions. We are not a fear based people. We cherish traditional values, and are committed to our heritage. We conserve, if you will.

Your rhetoric is supremely unhelpful, and is part of the reason why we have such polarized viewpoints in this country. Instead of trying to tell us why we are doing what we do, try asking, instead.

You aren't seeking to understand, and find common ground with us. You are seeking to get a cheap shot in, and condemn us, and ours.

To summarize your attack on our support of the second amendment, and your so called "fear" that we have:
We do not love our guns. We love the freedom that we can protect with our guns.

 

[newfie]

The plain reality is the conservative policy agenda is unpopular with, or irrelevant to most self identified conservative voters.

In my experience, conservative voters see other groups of Americans as a threat, as underserving of government help and they see these groups of Americans as lazy, violent, criminal, immoral, with values or beliefs that are undermining their America. That's what motivates them, not some specific set of policy ideas about taxes or guns.

conservatives won every significant branch of government in 2016 and even now control most with the exception of the house. your reality is a bit fuzzy

 

[LarryBird]

conservatives won every significant branch of government in 2016 and even now control most with the exception of the house. your reality is a bit fuzzy

Ok, then. Since you're so confident in the republicans popularity and abilities to dominate the political landscape, let's undo all that redistricting you guys have done over the past 25 years or so, and abolish the obsolete electoral college. We can see how you guys do moving forward after that.

My guess, being that the GOP is dieing a slow death with every day that passes, and the millenials/genX are more liberal than any past generations in this nation's history, is that you guys might not win a national election ever again, and neither branch of congress would never be held by a republican majority again either.

Until then, I wouldn't brag about your rigged victories or losing the majority vote any time you've held the Presidency this present century.

 

[BrownFlush]

Ok, then. Since you're so confident in the republicans popularity and abilities to dominate the political landscape, let's undo all that redistricting you guys have done over the past 25 years or so, and abolish the obsolete electoral college. We can see how you guys do moving forward after that.

My guess, being that the GOP is dieing a slow death with every day that passes, and the millenials/genX are more liberal than any past generations in this nation's history, is that you guys might not win a national election ever again, and neither branch of congress would never be held by a republican majority again either.

Until then, I wouldn't brag about your rigged victories or losing the majority vote any time you've held the Presidency this present century.

Yeah, yeah, oh yeah ..what condition my condition was in..
The wisdom of the founding fathers seen idiots like you and the states they lived in coming on the scene 250 years ago.

 

[newfie]

Ok, then. Since you're so confident in the republicans popularity and abilities to dominate the political landscape, let's undo all that redistricting you guys have done over the past 25 years or so, and abolish the obsolete electoral college. We can see how you guys do moving forward after that.

My guess, being that the GOP is dieing a slow death with every day that passes, and the millenials/genX are more liberal than any past generations in this nation's history, is that you guys might not win a national election ever again, and neither branch of congress would never be held by a republican majority again either.

Until then, I wouldn't brag about your rigged victories or losing the majority vote any time you've held the Presidency this present century.

You're delusional. ...again

 

[LarryBird]

You're delusional. ...again

Great, so then you'd be on board with that then if it's so delusional. You'd have nothing to worry about, by undoing the gerrymandering and getting rid of the electoral college. Your position is obviously that republicans would still be able to win just as often without these things, so there shouldn't be any reticence on their parts to make these moves, if for no other reason than to shove it in the liberal media's faces.

You should call your congressman and senators to let them know your stance, and start an online petition to help get the ball rolling. Let your voices in DC hear from their constituency and find out where they themselves stand on the issue as well.

 

[Old Man Jingles]

Gross it’s like one of those facebook questionnaires high school girls pass around. Except a lot more presumptuous.

Disingenuous is more like it.

 

[El Correcto]

Disingenuous is more like it.

Quit being presumptuous.

 

[LarryBird]

Yeah, yeah, oh yeah ..what condition my condition was in..
The wisdom of the founding fathers seen idiots like you and the states they lived in coming on the scene 250 years ago.

I'm guessing this is in reference to the electoral college, which leads me to believe you have a poor understanding of why it was it instituted, or at least an extremely simplified explanation why it was once useful, if not totally necessary, and why it no longer is in the modern era.

It hasn't been needed in at least 100 years. At least.

Bob Dylan, on the other hand, probably does. He keeps up with the times, and changes with them as necessary.

 

[LarryBird]

Quit being presumptuous.

Hey also, didn't get a chance to respond to your above comment earlier.

I admitted that a few of the questions were semi dickish, and more for my entertainment, than the fact that I thought that people would answer them with serious responses. Said questions were more like thinly veiled statements of what the general conception surrounding the lesser respected members of your beloved GOP is.

But that doesn't change the fact that #5 through #10 were pretty legitimate, and worthy of an answer, or a discussion surrounding why people might think they were off base.

I will offer a retort to whomever answers any or all of them. I was just been too busy yesterday to do it, as I'd like to expound on why my responses to them are what they will be, out of respect to those who took the time to answer, instead of just rifling off snarky that amuses me.

 

[El Correcto]

Hey also, didn't get a chance to respond to your above comment earlier.

I admitted that a few of the questions were semi dickish, and more for my entertainment, than the fact that I thought that people would answer them with serious responses. Said questions were more like thinly veiled statements of what the general conception surrounding the lesser respected members of your beloved GOP is.

But that doesn't change the fact that #5 through #10 were pretty legitimate, and worthy of an answer, or a discussion surrounding why people might think they were off base.

I will offer a retort to whomever answers any or all of them. I was just been too busy yesterday to do it, as I'd like to expound on why my responses to them are what they will be, out of respect to those who took the time to answer, instead of just rifling off snarky that amuses me.

#5. What is your hard on about banning high capacity hunting rifles, because they look scary? Most gun crime is committed with handguns. I believe the second amendment is in a reasonable place right now, a little too left leaning, but good. I’d like to see automatic weapons legalized federally and regulated by state. A lot of the arguments come down to who is the federal government to tell me what I can and can’t pack in my community. Let the communities decide.

#10. The wall is targeting poor Mexicans who wish to illegally hop out border and start birthing anchor babies. I don’t want poor Mexicans hopping our border and birthing anchor babies.
Does this make me a racist? Not really. Mexican culture is completely different than ours and people of South America/Mexico are used to socialist garbage regimes. Also cartels, human trafficking and unregulated drugs.

 

[El Correcto]

Also a property funded wall across the border would deter people. What makes you think it wouldn’t?

 

[LarryBird]

Also a property funded wall across the border would deter people. What makes you think it wouldn’t?

The numbers 50 and 30.

Because it costs approximately $50 for a step ladder and less than $20 for a shovel. So if you've got your wallet on you, all it takes to bypass Trump's big idea of immigration control, is a trip to the home depot, and 30 seconds to make the choice whether you'd like to go over or under the wall.

Besides, the wall places all the focus on a method of illegal immigration that is just a drop in the bucket, at a cost that's not worth the perceived benefits. The vast majority of illegals entered the country legally on travel visas and just stayed to strike it rich in the slaughterhouse or strawberry fields.

With those kinds of cushy jobs available to them, and ZERO competition from the locals, how could they resist?

 

[LarryBird]

We're also talking about a wall keeping people and drugs out, when they're building super tunnels with electricity, rails, and ventilation, that are miles long and pay for themselves after one use.

They have German engineers on the payroll that can tunnel almost a mile to the exact location of a drug lord's shower inside a maximum security prison and people somehow believe they won't be able to do the same thing in the middle of Nowhere, Texas or Bumble, Arizona and that there's not a mint to be made in the soon to be booming immigration tunnel market?

Step back into reality where the rest of us live, TrumpTards.

 

[El Correcto]

The numbers 50 and 30.

Because it costs approximately $50 for a step ladder and less than $20 for a shovel. So if you've got your wallet on you, all it takes to bypass Trump's big idea of immigration control, is a trip to the home depot, and 30 seconds to make the choice whether you'd like to go over or under the wall.

Besides, the wall places all the focus on a method of illegal immigration that is just a drop in the bucket, at a cost that's not worth the perceived benefits. The vast majority of illegals entered the country legally on travel visas and just stayed to strike it rich in the slaughterhouse or strawberry fields.

With those kinds of cushy jobs available to them, and ZERO competition from the locals, how could they resist?

So you are going to take your car over a “step ladder”? Okay so you are now making a long trek through desert by foot, wonderful or wait you are going to carry a step ladder vs food and supplies?

Are you familiar with what it takes to tunnel under something? Especially something that is a good couple feet underground? Do you think the wall just starts at the surface of the ground?

Also I wouldn’t call the 40% of all illegals enter our country over the border by 2016 numbers as a drop in the bucket. I would consider 50 billion for a properly funded wall a drop in the bucket compared to the 60 trillion dollar+ incentive package being campaign on by democrats.

 

[El Correcto]

We're also talking about a wall keeping people and drugs out, when they're building super tunnels with electricity, rails, and ventilation, that are miles long and pay for themselves after one use.

They have German engineers on the payroll that can tunnel almost a mile to the exact location of a drug lord's shower inside a maximum security prison and people somehow believe they won't be able to do the same thing in the middle of Nowhere, Texas or Bumble, Arizona and that there's not a mint to be made in the soon to be booming immigration tunnel market?

Step back into reality where the rest of us live, TrumpTards.

Well now we are discussing a different topic over illegal immigration, which a wall would be effective in. Preventing illegals from hopping over an imaginary line.

Personally I’m against drug prohibition all together. All of it.

 

[newfie]

Great, so then you'd be on board with that then if it's so delusional. You'd have nothing to worry about, by undoing the gerrymandering and getting rid of the electoral college. Your position is obviously that republicans would still be able to win just as often without these things, so there shouldn't be any reticence on their parts to make these moves, if for no other reason than to shove it in the liberal media's faces.

You should call your congressman and senators to let them know your stance, and start an online petition to help get the ball rolling. Let your voices in DC hear from their constituency and find out where they themselves stand on the issue as well.

a democrat complaining of Gerrymandering is delusional . kind of like a carnivore complaining about cannibals eating too much meat.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

a democrat complaining of Gerrymandering is delusional . kind of like a carnivore complaining about cannibals eating too much meat.

Kind of like a republican complaining about the debt.

 

[refineryworker05]

Yeah, but they love their guns - gotta protect themselves and what they earned from the lazy, violent, criminal element that they're so afraid of, that it informs their every decision in life and the voting booth.

It has been studied to death, and determined that republicans are truly fear based people. There are exceptions to this, sure. But taken as a whole, that's who they are and what they represent. That's what they base their decisions, rhetoric, and policy on.

I agree with this largely. I think most people are fear based not just republicans, and I don't think that is always a bad thing, the issue is republicans are fear based against other Americans.

 

[refineryworker05]

conservatives won every significant branch of government in 2016 and even now control most with the exception of the house. your reality is a bit fuzzy

And? Polling on republican policies are unpopular with the public. That was the point I was making that conservative ideology is dead, voters don't care about specific conservative ideology and haven't for a long long time. conservatives run and win on fear and more fear and hey we are going to screw over those groups of Americans you fear. It is a very very powerful driver for human beings.