newfie

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And? Polling on republican policies are unpopular with the public. That was the point I was making that conservative ideology is dead, voters don't care about specific conservative ideology and haven't for a long long time. conservatives run and win on fear and more fear and hey we are going to screw over those groups of Americans you fear. It is a very very powerful driver for human beings.

The vote results do not support your wild theory
 

newfie

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The numbers 50 and 30.

Because it costs approximately $50 for a step ladder and less than $20 for a shovel. So if you've got your wallet on you, all it takes to bypass Trump's big idea of immigration control, is a trip to the home depot, and 30 seconds to make the choice whether you'd like to go over or under the wall.

Besides, the wall places all the focus on a method of illegal immigration that is just a drop in the bucket, at a cost that's not worth the perceived benefits. The vast majority of illegals entered the country legally on travel visas and just stayed to strike it rich in the slaughterhouse or strawberry fields.

With those kinds of cushy jobs available to them, and ZERO competition from the locals, how could they resist?

Most are crossing through the Rio grande valley. Are you really going to argue that illegals will tunnel under the Rio grande river? Really?
 

Jones

fILE A GRIEVE!
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And? Polling on republican policies are unpopular with the public. That was the point I was making that conservative ideology is dead, voters don't care about specific conservative ideology and haven't for a long long time. conservatives run and win on fear and more fear and hey we are going to screw over those groups of Americans you fear. It is a very very powerful driver for human beings.
If whats going on at CPAC is any indication your analysis is spot on:

Starving people eating dog food. Parents aborting babies after taking them home from the hospital. That was the dark vision — of creeping socialism and of abortion unrestrained — that marked the opening day of the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC), the annual gathering of conservatives that offers an untrammeled view of Republican perspectives, and a sign of where the party is headed politically.
That appears to be a calculated strategy to motivate Republican voters ahead of the 2020 presidential election, stoking fear and anxiety about the Democrats’ accretion of power. Progressives were trying to “destroy the country from within,” warned one young conservative activist, Charlie Kirk, in one of the morning’s best received and most bracing speeches.


At CPAC, talk of 'infanticide' and socialism point to dark turn for conservative politics
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
If whats going on at CPAC is any indication your analysis is spot on:

Starving people eating dog food. Parents aborting babies after taking them home from the hospital. That was the dark vision — of creeping socialism and of abortion unrestrained — that marked the opening day of the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC), the annual gathering of conservatives that offers an untrammeled view of Republican perspectives, and a sign of where the party is headed politically.
That appears to be a calculated strategy to motivate Republican voters ahead of the 2020 presidential election, stoking fear and anxiety about the Democrats’ accretion of power. Progressives were trying to “destroy the country from within,” warned one young conservative activist, Charlie Kirk, in one of the morning’s best received and most bracing speeches.


At CPAC, talk of 'infanticide' and socialism point to dark turn for conservative politics

Based on the fact the liberals have supported infanticide including your KkK loving governor.
 

LarryBird

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Tonight is the night I will go through the thread and reply to all the answers given and the people who responded.

I will be give reasons, and point out hypocrisy or when the beliefs clash within the conservative ideology.
 

Fenris

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10 Questions for Republicans
1.)What are you so scared of?
2.)Why do you think everyone is out to get you and coming to take what you earned?
3.)Why don't you like or show any compassion for your fellow citizens, especially those less fortunate than yourself?
4.)How come the brown people frighten you?
5.)Why do you love the 2cd ammendment so much that you think a ban on assault weapons is bad for this country?
6.)Why do you worry about other people outside your immediate family or relationship having abortions?
7.)Why are you against welfare and entitlement programs despite your stance on abortions?
8.)Why don't you think socialized medicine will work in America, as it does in the rest of the civilized world?
9.)Why do you need to rely on gerrymandering and the electoral college to win local, state, and national elections?
10.)What makes you think a wall will do ANYTHING at all to stop the flow of illegal immigration and drugs into our country?

Probably could've summed it up with this single question: who hurt you?


Not really a republican, more of a conservative leaning libertarian, but why not.

1) Ever growing government, which reduces personal freedom and increases tyranny.
2) Because I can read and see what the left is proposing and voting for - and is what is happening in blue states.
3) Showing compassion is very different than trying to make the government take other people's money to support your values.
4) They don't.
5) Because 2A is the ultimate check on government and we should have sufficient arms to stand up to them. And an AR-15 is not an assualt weapon.
6) Why do you worry about people outside your immediate family or relationship being murdered?
7) Limited welfare programs for those truly disabled or a temporary helping hand to someone suffering a set back are fine. Creating incentive to be non-productive is not.
8) Doesn't work as well as leftists proclaim in the rest of the world and the rest of the world is subsidized by American expenditures. If we went socialized medicine, it would be ugly all around. How about we get government (who has driven the major inflation in medical care) out of health care and let the market work.
9) I love how the left ignores the gerrymandered blue states - but, yes, get rid of it. and make representation based upon citizen population. Electoral college is a check to make sure the entire country is represented rather than a few of the largest population centers.
10) It wont. The wall is stupid.
 
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