An 8 hour day is the protected minimum per contractual languageVoted no because it sounds like you are asking if the "standard" day should be change from the current 8 hours to 9.5 hours.
Be careful what you ask for. Max 9.5 for every driver would actually guarantee every driver was available for Saturday delivery.
Ive been saying it for years have 2 driver shifts. 1 shift gets done early and 2nd shift runs a lot of airs, bulk, and a lot of pickups. 2nd shift would be younger guys and or guys that wanted a lot of ot. Get rid of the loaders, let drivers load their own trucks to cut down on poopy loads ad misleads and just have part time guys on the unload. My father in law even said it the other night at dinner" You guys schedule and getting home that late is just ridiculous" Ditto dude, it is stupid as hell lol.We should have ( negotiated ) language that places us ALL in the 9.5 catagory from the start of the year. Then, on a separate list, there should be a sign up list for those that want extra overtime.
The US postal service does this and it works out just fine.
This way, there would be NO grievances for excessive overtime. The company would have to plan for all routes to be 9.5 unless exempted by the driver himself who would sign up for overtime without restrictions.
Those that want it, can have it. Those that want to go home to their families and take care of their bodies over a 25 year career can do so. There would never be any arguments.
Right now, UPS is working everyone up to 13 hours. I worked on monday until 10pm in package this week. They didnt care. My first day back in package after being in feeder all year.
We go back to feeder next week and believe me, 12 hours in feeder is NOTHING like 8 hours in package.
TOS.
Ive been saying it for years have 2 driver shifts. 1 shift gets done early and 2nd shift runs a lot of airs, bulk, and a lot of pickups. 2nd shift would be younger guys and or guys that wanted a lot of ot. Get rid of the loaders, let drivers load their own trucks to cut down on poopy loads ad misleads and just have part time guys on the unload. My father in law even said it the other night at dinner" You guys schedule and getting home that late is just ridiculous" Ditto dude, it is stupid as hell lol.
Totally agree with yaThere are some pros with this and some cons. In areas far from center where drivers take an hour to get on area, you now would have 4 total hours just driving to and from on area with two shifts. (2 hours for each of two drivers). I would think there is some benefit to designating areas that are close to building be a low plan paid day area. Thereby having more driver routes. Areas that are far away from building would be planned out as having a higher paid day. IN that way, a driver who wants more hours bid on the routes that are designated as a higher paid day route. Drivers who want less hours bid on routes that have a designated lower paid day. (I'm from area of country where we bid each year -- I realize other areas are different). I think having a few driver runs in the early AM for air delivery as well as extra driver runs for bulk ground pickup make a lot of sense. The AM drivers would allow the regular drivers to break trace less often, the PM drivers would allow the local sort to start up with enough work to keep them busy. The main goal should be to have a reasonable paid day during majority of year and then be able to increase it during peak. I think most people would agree it's reasonable to work long days for the 4-5 weeks prior to Christmas. However, it is not realistic to work 10+ hours per day for 52 weeks a year. (Or even over 9.5 hours each day of the year).
We should have ( negotiated ) language that places us ALL in the 9.5 catagory from the start of the year. Then, on a separate list, there should be a sign up list for those that want extra overtime.
The US postal service does this and it works out just fine.
This way, there would be NO grievances for excessive overtime. The company would have to plan for all routes to be 9.5 unless exempted by the driver himself who would sign up for overtime without restrictions.
Those that want it, can have it. Those that want to go home to their families and take care of their bodies over a 25 year career can do so. There would never be any arguments.
Right now, UPS is working everyone up to 13 hours. I worked on monday until 10pm in package this week. They didnt care. My first day back in package after being in feeder all year.
We go back to feeder next week and believe me, 12 hours in feeder is NOTHING like 8 hours in package.
TOS.
We should have ( negotiated ) language that places us ALL in the 9.5 catagory from the start of the year.
Right now, UPS is working everyone up to 13 hours. I worked on monday until 10pm in package this week. They didnt care. My first day back in package after being in feeder all year.
We go back to feeder next week and believe me, 12 hours in feeder is NOTHING like 8 hours in package.
TOS.