2020 candidates

newfie

Well-Known Member
You could be right about that Newf but remember something about the Democrats. We had a no name one term Georgia governor , a "Bill Who" governor out of Arkansas and a freshman senator from Illinois with a funny name nobody ever heard of all of whom came out of nowhere to win the presidency. Not saying it's going to happen but the history is there and after next weeks debate look for as many as half of the "your putting me on" type of candidates to drop out leaving space for another "who" to maybe get the shot they've be looking for.

ok so assuming we have one running who has not shown his/her true charm and grit.

how will that candidate walk back his health care for illegals commitment when it comes time to move back to the center to capture the moderate vote?
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
Agree. Healthcare is one issue I'll never agree with the Republicans on. Healthcare is a right and all Americans should have access to it. And not just the super expensive ER care that taxpayers end paying for anyway.

the problem with that is the hotel california now is streets full of homeless who are not being helped while your party worries about giving free healthcare to those that came here illegally. that will not sell well

the winning message for the dems would be to drop the immigration hysteria and turn that hysteria to help on the homeless in America.

its a winning message opportunity that the dems have ignored. they can do the visits to the streets of the inner city and highlight how trumps America has left these poor americans behind.
 

bacha29

Well-Known Member
the problem with that is the hotel california now is streets full of homeless who are not being helped while your party worries about giving free healthcare to those that came here illegally. that will not sell well

the winning message for the dems would be to drop the immigration hysteria and turn that hysteria to help on the homeless in America.

its a winning message opportunity that the dems have ignored. they can do the visits to the streets of the inner city and highlight how trumps America has left these poor americans behind.
Once again Newf. Hospitals by means of their license and charter cannot discriminate on any grounds including refusing to treat people on the basis of citizenship. If you believe that the American people in their righteous might can choose to refuse to provide healthcare to anyone on the basis of citizenship , fine, but does that include Canadians , British , Indians,etc etc who get sick while being in this country? What if they did the same to Americans in their country? I get what you're saying but only if it were that simple. Central American nations are failing under the crushing weight of overpopulation and people are running away as fast as they can. Want to stop the tidal wave of people headed north? Then you have to start at the source.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Once again Newf. Hospitals by means of their license and charter cannot discriminate on any grounds including refusing to treat people on the basis of citizenship. If you believe that the American people in their righteous might can choose to refuse to provide healthcare to anyone on the basis of citizenship , fine, but does that include Canadians , British , Indians,etc etc who get sick while being in this country? What if they did the same to Americans in their country? I get what you're saying but only if it were that simple. Central American nations are failing under the crushing weight of overpopulation and people are running away as fast as they can. Want to stop the tidal wave of people headed north? Then you have to start at the source.
Overpopulated? Where are you getting that?
 

Box Ox

Well-Known Member
Once again Newf. Hospitals by means of their license and charter cannot discriminate on any grounds including refusing to treat people on the basis of citizenship. If you believe that the American people in their righteous might can choose to refuse to provide healthcare to anyone on the basis of citizenship , fine, but does that include Canadians , British , Indians,etc etc who get sick while being in this country? What if they did the same to Americans in their country? I get what you're saying but only if it were that simple. Central American nations are failing under the crushing weight of overpopulation and people are running away as fast as they can. Want to stop the tidal wave of people headed north? Then you have to start at the source.

I think one thing we know for certain is that national healthcare coverage and social programs in general wouldn't be sustainable unless our borders are secure and illegal immigration is under control.

Might be about time to help Mexico build a 100 foot tall wall with a flaming moat and alligators across its entire southern border if the Democrats really want their stuff to happen.
 

Fred's Myth

Nonhyphenated American
Once again Newf. Hospitals by means of their license and charter cannot discriminate on any grounds including refusing to treat people on the basis of citizenship. If you believe that the American people in their righteous might can choose to refuse to provide healthcare to anyone on the basis of citizenship , fine, but does that include Canadians , British , Indians,etc etc who get sick while being in this country? What if they did the same to Americans in their country? I get what you're saying but only if it were that simple. Central American nations are failing under the crushing weight of overpopulation and people are running away as fast as they can. Want to stop the tidal wave of people headed north? Then you have to start at the source.
We’re providing free healthcare to everyone who enters the U.S.?
Damn, next thing you know we’ll have to provide nursing home care to them as well!
 
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