2020 Presidential Updates

[vantexan]

Since when do uber wealthy pay federal income taxes. The average UPS employee in Florida contributed more than Trump's $750.

You can look up the stats. Most income taxes are paid by the wealthy. And Trump paid millions.

 

[bacha29]

Try not to forget we've got most of the oil, agriculture, and in case you haven't noticed we're crisscrossed with interstates and railroads too. Hell we've got most of the wind turbines in the country and most of the navigable rivers. Think we'd do just fine.

The interstate road a rail system would end at your borders. Your economy would be limited to your own states. You would have to negotiate your own trade deals establish your own tax laws, build your own education and healthcare system without Medicare your own system of higher education, your own army and your own banking The rest of the US would simply cut you off and isolate you. The secession states would receive absolutely nothing from the rest of the U.S. As far as agriculture goes it's getting so hot and dry out there that about the only thing that will grow anymore requires irrigation while the rest of the US would control the Mississippi and the Great Lakes.

Every few years somebody in the red states gets butt hurt about one matter or the other and talks of secession. But when the reality of secession slaps them in the face they quiet up in a hurry when they are reminded of the fact that the banks are on Wall Street and the U.S. Federal Reserve holds all the cards.

 

[vantexan]

The interstate road a rail system would end at your borders. Your economy would be limited to your own states. You would have to negotiate your own trade deals establish your own tax laws, build your own education and healthcare system without Medicare your own system of higher education, your own army and your own banking The rest of the US would simply cut you off and isolate you. The secession states would receive absolutely nothing from the rest of the U.S. As far as agriculture goes it's getting so hot and dry out there that about the only thing that will grow anymore requires irrigation while the rest of the US would control the Mississippi and the Great Lakes.

Every few years somebody in the red states gets butt hurt about one matter or the other and talks of secession. But when the reality of secession slaps them in the face they quiet up in a hurry when they are reminded of the fact that the banks are on Wall Street and the U.S. Federal Reserve holds all the cards.

Are you under the impression that red states don't export agriculture products? We produce most of the food eaten in this country. Most of the cotton, timber, etc. Most of the Mississippi flows through the red states as well as it's major tributaries. And only crackpots typically talk of secession but when elections are rigged that talk increases by a lot more folks. You're apparently putting this on the Southeast but the red states encompass most of the Midwest and Mountain States too. So yes we would produce most of the food, have most of the oil. We already have the world's best cardiovascular hospitals and universities everywhere. Be careful what you wish for.

 

[Fred's Myth]

Are you under the impression that red states don't export agriculture products? We produce most of the food eaten in this country. Most of the cotton, timber, etc. Most of the Mississippi flows through the red states as well as it's major tributaries. And only crackpots typically talk of secession but when elections are rigged that talk increases by a lot more folks. You're apparently putting this on the Southeast but the red states encompass most of the Midwest and Mountain States too. So yes we would produce most of the food, have most of the oil. We already have the world's best cardiovascular hospitals and universities everywhere. Be careful what you wish for.

Bacha had a welfare check by the police the other day, no one had heard from him for days.

Seems he had walked in front of a mirror, and was still arguing with it when they found him.

 

[vantexan]

Bacha had a welfare check by the police the other day, no one had heard from him for days.

Seems he had walked in front of a mirror, and was still arguing with it when they found him.

Probably not far off!

 

[floridays]

Bacha had a welfare check by the police the other day, no one had heard from him for days.

Seems he had walked in front of a mirror, and was still arguing with it when they found him.

 

[Old Man Jingles]

Since when do uber wealthy pay federal income taxes. The average UPS employee in Florida contributed more than Trump's $750.

At least you were honest to specify federal income taxes.
National Democrats and MSM always said 'taxes' and knew they were lying.

 

[Old Man Jingles]

You can look up the stats. Most income taxes are paid by the wealthy. And Trump paid millions.

Nope ... Capital Gains and Corp Dispersions are not income tax.

Just say 'taxes' and you nailed it!

 

[vantexan]

Nope ... Capital Gains and Corp Dispersions are not income tax.

Just say 'taxes' and you nailed it!

We're talking individual income taxes and the fact is the bottom 50% of income earners pay very little in income tax. The bulk of it is paid by the top 50%, especially the top 10%.

 

[Old Man Jingles]

We're talking individual income taxes and the fact is the bottom 50% of income earners pay very little in income tax. The bulk of it is paid by the top 50%, especially the top 10%.

Most of the wealthiest people pay little or no income taxes.
They don't work at jobs.

Wage earners pay income taxes ... wealthy people don't.

 

[newfie]

Most of the wealthiest people pay little or no income taxes.
They don't work at jobs.

Wage earners pay income taxes ... wealthy people don't.

95 percent of taxes are paid by the top 1 percent?

 

[Old Man Jingles]

95 percent of taxes are paid by the top 1 percent?

The top 1 percent of taxpayers paid roughly $538 billion, or 37.3 percent of all income taxes, while the bottom 90 percent paid about $440 billion, or 30.5 percent of all income taxes.

What percentage of taxes do the Top 5 Pay?
A look at the big picture

Income Category	2017 AGI	Percent of Income Taxes Paid
Top 5%	Over $208,053	59.1%
Top 10%	Over $145,135	70.1%
Top 25%	Over $83,682	86.1%
Top 50%	Over $41,740	96.9%

 

[Jumpin Jack Flash]

You can look up the stats. Most income taxes are paid by the wealthy. And Trump paid millions.

Trump admits he’s hasn’t paid taxes. You’re confusing Trump‘s businesses paying taxes, not his individual tax. He’s skated paying taxes. He’s a real scumbag. Never mind using our courts to not pay his debts with bankruptcies.

 

[vantexan]

Most of the wealthiest people pay little or no income taxes.
They don't work at jobs.

Wage earners pay income taxes ... wealthy people don't.

And we're talking about income taxes which would exclude those receiving interest or dividends only. Talking about working and many of the wealthiest do work or did until they retired. There's absolutely no reason for Besos or Buffet or even Fred S to work but they do. Undoubtedly most of their income comes from dividends or selling shares which while not work income still gets taxed. It's just the politics of envy that says the wealthy don't pay their fair share.

 

[newfie]

Most of the wealthiest people pay little or no income taxes.
They don't work at jobs.

Wage earners pay income taxes ... wealthy people don't.

The top 1 percent of taxpayers paid roughly $538 billion, or 37.3 percent of all income taxes, while the bottom 90 percent paid about $440 billion, or 30.5 percent of all income taxes.

What percentage of taxes do the Top 5 Pay?
A look at the big picture

Income Category	2017 AGI	Percent of Income Taxes Paid
Top 5%	Over $208,053	59.1%
Top 10%	Over $145,135	70.1%
Top 25%	Over $83,682	86.1%
Top 50%	Over $41,740

one seems to conflict with the other?

 

[Old Man Jingles]

 

[Old Man Jingles]

Bacon is the solution for every problem!

 

[bbsam]

Blue states are in financial hot water for doling out money they don't have. Pelosi is trying to get them bailed out but McConnell rightfully points out states that are fiscally responsible shouldn't have to save states that aren't.

And if the blue states no longer have to support the red states?

 

[bbsam]

The top 1 percent of taxpayers paid roughly $538 billion, or 37.3 percent of all income taxes, while the bottom 90 percent paid about $440 billion, or 30.5 percent of all income taxes.

What percentage of taxes do the Top 5 Pay?
A look at the big picture

Income Category	2017 AGI	Percent of Income Taxes Paid
Top 5%	Over $208,053	59.1%
Top 10%	Over $145,135	70.1%
Top 25%	Over $83,682	86.1%
Top 50%	Over $41,740	96.9%

Not nearly enough.

 

[Old Man Jingles]

Not nearly enough.