3 1/2 guarantee daily or each shift?

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by blakerben, Sep 29, 2019.

  1. Boston25

    Boston25 Active Member

    Depends on what what your supplement says.
     
  2. claptimusbrown

    claptimusbrown New Member

    Kicks in after 5 hours, so if you get 3 hours the first shift and 3 the second shift, that 6th hour would be time and a half.
     
  3. Justaloader

    Justaloader Active Member

    Interesting. We just started a 1-5 pm sort in my hub. It started this past Monday, and they had us come in at 12pm, and work to 5pm. They then made us clock out, and then clock back in at 6pm, and work till 10 pm (which is the normal twilight shift). I was told by the management team that there would not be overtime paid, which is why they broke it up into two seperate shifts. They also said after cyber Monday, there would be plenty of overtime available.
     
  4. I wonder if each shift is considered a punch?
    Meaning that the second shift on Wednesday would be the sixth punch?

    I'll ask @BigUnionGuy
     
  5. Justaloader

    Justaloader Active Member

    I'm not sure. We have the ability to do it every day (Monday through Friday), so, in theory a person could end up with 10 punches.
     
  6. I honestly don't know how that works. Can't hurt to ask
     
  7. Justaloader

    Justaloader Active Member

    Agreed - but it's getting an informed, truthful answer that is the challenge. :)
     
  8. Call the union hall and ask your BA
     
  9. BadIdeaGuy

    BadIdeaGuy Coronavirus? What coronavirus?

    Tell your BA to get you a copy of your contract to study.

    710 has this:
    Which would be quite helpful in this case, since you work at a hub.
     
  10. UnconTROLLed

    UnconTROLLed perfection

    Our hub agreed to having PT sign up for 8 hours guarantee before peak, no OT until after 8, for this reason.

    UPS will sometimes run sorts into each other 24 hrs and people weren't punching out, thus 12 hours they'd get (or expect) 5 hours reg 7 hours OT a day. Which was silly.
     
  11. A 12 hour day isn't a part time job. That's why they pay time and a half after 5. Maybe they need more full time jobs?
     
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  12. UnconTROLLed

    UnconTROLLed perfection

    No one was forced to double or triple shift. If anything it was PT greed.

    Like I said, UPS and union worked out an 8 hour list for part timers at peak. Temp FT. And if you aren't on the list, and you want to double shift, you get two punches and straight pay
     
  13. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    They have tried that at my building before. No one signs up and UPS ends up paying OT after 5 hours instead of 8.
     
  14. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    Not forced but sups and managers are begging people to double or triple shift.
     
  15. UnconTROLLed

    UnconTROLLed perfection

    Yeah definitely.
     
  16. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    UPS pays minimum PT wages with no benefits while the Union charges $600 initiation fees and you call it PT greed.
     
  17. UnconTROLLed

    UnconTROLLed perfection

    I would also say that UPS gives ridiculous 100-200/week just to show up bonus.

    When I started, that was literally a weeks take home pay.
     
  18. Sounds like another give back

    Thanks Dennis
     
  19. UnconTROLLed

    UnconTROLLed perfection

    thank your negotiator, kids...thanks Dennis

     
  20. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    I remember UPS trying this out 30 years ago. Seasonal FT with a 40 hour grantee a week. Thing was we were working 50/hrs PT. Nobody signed up.
     
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