3-day rides ramping up in our division

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by The Driver, Mar 12, 2019.

  1. PASinterference

    PASinterference Yes, I know I'm working late.

    All I know is if they attempt to ride with me more than once per year I'm filing harassment. The hot new term in mgmt right now is "methods ride". Nothing but a production ride. Pampered dispatch. Perfectly groomed load. Whatever, but if you get your smelly butt on here twice a year I'm filing.
     
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  2. The Driver

    The Driver I drive.

    I don't read it that way. I read it as not more than one member of management can ride with a driver per year unless it's for training purposes.

    Sounds like it's up to the driver to determine if he or she feels they are being over-supervised or not.
     
  3. The Driver

    The Driver I drive.

    The "methods ride" thing is exactly what's going around in our center.
     
  4. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    No.

    People always fail to read the whole thing.


    "Not more than one (1) member of management will ride with a driver at any time except for the purpose of training management personnel. No driver will be scheduled for more than one (1) day’s ride per year with more than one (1) member of management on the car."


    If you feel the number of rides is excessive.... then file a grievance.



    -Bug-
     
  5. PASinterference

    PASinterference Yes, I know I'm working late.

    My latest ride was a "combination s&v / methods" ride. He knows I'll file if he rides twice. Btw not one word was said about safety or methods. It's all just following orders from above to try to increase production.
     
  6. Wally

    Wally BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns

    I read that Buggy as one ride per year with only one sup.
     
  7. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    It can't be anymore clear.


    "No driver will be scheduled for more than one (1) day’s ride per year with more than one (1) member of management on the car."


    A lot of people mis-read that.
     
  8. oldngray

    oldngray nowhere special

    Its always about production (except for the mandatory safety ride after an accident or your annual ride). They just use "methods" as an excuse.
     
  9. govols019

    govols019 You smell that?

    And then they get mad when you explain that they are reading it wrong.
     
  10. trickpony1

    trickpony1 Well-Known Member

    I do have a question about more than two (2) people being on a pkg car.

    The pkg car was OEM built for two people, the driver and a passenger. There is a seat and a seatbelt for a driver and a passenger.

    If a third person is on that vehicle where, legally, will he sit and be secured with a seatbelt?

    I think there are even DOT and state laws about having a seat and a seatbelt for each occupant.

    In essence, I think a third person standing in the cargo area holding onto the shelves, swaying with the movements of the vehicle, may be illegal. But what could I know?
     
  11. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    What trips the red flags, are when burners tear up some drivers bid route.



    I've found, that if you just take a few minutes (and calmly) read through it

    with the member.... almost all, will understand their mis-interpretation.



    It's funny you mention this.... because it has been discussed before.


    And in 3..2..1.. @scratch can and will provide a picture of a third seat in the

    cab of a pkg car. I've never seen one in person, and he is the "go to" for this.



    -Bug-
     
  12. zubenelgenubi

    zubenelgenubi Well-Known Member

    It seemed like I was the go to guy for a couple years any time a supervisor needed to be retrained on ride alongs. I usually ended up more over allowed than normal, and each supervisor had their own set of methods they were trying to teach me. From now on, I will be doing the same, and filing on any more than one ride per year.
     
  13. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    What's the contract violation ?
     
  14. scratch

    scratch Least Best Moderator Staff Member

    Two jump seats in a package car.996759E3-E0ED-4E94-A44A-E1F751035D0E.jpeg
     
  15. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    On car rides only make the day and over allowed even worse. I always welcomed them with a smile .
     
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  16. UnconTROLLed

    UnconTROLLed perfection

    And a pat on the bottom?
     
  17. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    Are you offering?
     
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  18. UnconTROLLed

    UnconTROLLed perfection

    I only receive
     
  19. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    Im ready to give
     
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  20. UnconTROLLed

    UnconTROLLed perfection

    Just no grabbing like last time
     
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