9.5 Arbitration decision - Or - Why clear contract language is important

[542thruNthru]

It might be helpful if someone could give hints on what to include in the grievance and what to avoid.

Anytime you file a grievance you put the Article number and always add "and all applicable"

Example: Article 37 and all applicable

This allows your BA to use any article of the contract for your grievance.

I just write. "Week ending 5/10/20 I was over 9.5 four days."

Relief: paid penalty for all days worked over 9.5.

I attach a copy of my WOR for my BA and a copy of any messages I sent telling management I was going to be over 9.5.

 

[542thruNthru]

Without info how does the BA argue the merit of the grievance?

For a 9.5 grievance? The merit is the fact that I was worked over 9.5 three days in a week.

 

[Rack em]

For a 9.5 grievance? The merit is the fact that I was worked over 9.5 three days in a week.

You don't think the labor manager is going to fight a grievance any chance they get? More facts and info is never a bad thing IMO.

 

[542thruNthru]

You don't think the labor manager is going to fight a grievance any chance they get? More facts and info is never a bad thing IMO.

I've been told by my BA of people putting so much information they actually hurt their case. When the grievance is filed your BA and steward can collect any info they may need.

I don't disagree with you. Just personally I just put the facts and then let my BA or steward tell me what information he needs.

 

[Rack em]

I've been told by my BA of people putting so much information they actually hurt their case. When the grievance is filed your BA and steward can collect any info they may need.

I don't disagree with you. Just personally I just put the facts and then let my BA or steward tell me what information he needs.

Maybe that's where we differ...I don't have a rock solid steward or BA so I feel like I defend myself most of the time. I wish I could trust them to get the job done, but they are on the weaker side :/

 

[542thruNthru]

Maybe that's where we differ...I don't have a rock solid steward or BA so I feel like I defend myself most of the time. I wish I could trust them to get the job done, but they are on the weaker side :/

Something I watched years ago about the subject we are talking about.

Its a quick video.

 

[542thruNthru]

Maybe that's where we differ...I don't have a rock solid steward or BA so I feel like I defend myself most of the time. I wish I could trust them to get the job done, but they are on the weaker side :/

This is definitely a good point. It does depend on your representation.

 

[Rack em]

Something I watched years ago about the subject we are talking about.

Its a quick video.

Good video man.

 

[542thruNthru]

Good video man.

There are a couple of them if you're interested

 

[Rack em]

There are a couple of them if you're interested

You're smothering me.

 

[Over70irregs]

Anytime you file a grievance you put the Article number and always add "and all applicable"

Example: Article 37 and all applicable

This allows your BA to use any article of the contract for your grievance.

I just write. "Week ending 5/10/20 I was over 9.5 four days."

Relief: paid penalty for all days worked over 9.5.

I attach a copy of my WOR for my BA and a copy of any messages I sent telling management I was going to be over 9.5.

Time half, double time, triple time?

 

[Over70irregs]

Something I watched years ago about the subject we are talking about.

Its a quick video.

Everyone who files needs to watch this video.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

What's a grievance?

 

[Whither]

@UpstateNYUPSer

 

[Over70irregs]

What's a grievance?

A paper you turn in to get monetary compensation.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

A paper you turn in to get monetary compensation.

You need to fine tune your sarcasm meter.

 

[Over70irregs]

You need to fine tune your sarcasm meter.

You get paid when you turn in complaint.

 

[What'dyabringmetoday???]

A paper you turn in to get monetary compensation.

Not always...

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Not always...

If @BigUnionGuy was your steward you would win your grievances..

 

[What'dyabringmetoday???]

If @BigUnionGuy was your steward you would win your grievances..

I believe you missed my point. Grievances aren't always "to get monetary compensation". And he probably would if he's half the legend that he pretends to be. But I highly doubt it.