And the hits just keep coming

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

The dogs would get plenty of hits but they couldn't open anything.

While the dogs may have been unable to open anything due to their lack of opposable thumbs, there is nothing stopping LE from opening up the package(s), determining the contents, resealing and then setting up a sting at the delivery address. We had a driver who had one of those packages (a bowling ball with holes drilled out, stuffed with pot and surrounded by coffee beans) who was asked what time he would be at the delivery stop and to get a signature upon delivery. LE took it from there, arresting the consignee.

 

[Epoisode7]

While the dogs may have been unable to open anything due to their lack of opposable thumbs, there is nothing stopping LE from opening up the package(s), determining the contents, resealing and then setting up a sting at the delivery address. We had a driver who had one of those packages (a bowling ball with holes drilled out, stuffed with pot and surrounded by coffee beans) who was asked what time he would be at the delivery stop and to get a signature upon delivery. LE took it from there, arresting the consignee.
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Thank you for your condescending remark about the appendages of dogs. I was too stupid to realize that a canine could not open a box. Also, I worked in LE for many years, (with canines for a while) but thank you for telling me the functions of the job. In this jurisdiction (the one where I spent thousands of hours of my life doing society's dirty work), it was not possible to do that. For one, the dogs had too many hits on too many different areas. The scent carried over to the belts, the floors and walls, and even to one employee. The dogs hit on all these areas. The canines and handlers were invited there as guests to expose the dogs to large settings full of noise and people. It was to develop their situational awareness and allow them to focus on the task at hand and pay no attention to the noise. I will go back to my cave now and let you get back to mind breaking work of handing people cardboard boxes. Tonight I will probably be eating spam out of a can with a spork while you split the atom. Thank you, oh wise UPS driver, for enlightening me.

 

[59 Dano]

Which is a good indicator of how this corporation thinks. "It's just the Federal Government, they can't do **** to us." 99.9% of corps. would've done the same as UPS. Just not this one.

If FedEx wrote a check to make it go away (as UPS did), the usual gang of idiots here would be screaming that Fred bought his way out of trouble.

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[I Am Jacks Damaged Box]

...gang of idiots... ​

 

[MAKAVELI]

...gang of idiots... ​

My sentiments exactly.

 

[overflowed]

If FedEx wrote a check to make it go away (as UPS did), the usual gang of idiots here would be screaming that Fred bought his way out of trouble.

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Who's Fred?

 

[MrFedEx]

If FedEx wrote a check to make it go away (as UPS did), the usual gang of idiots here would be screaming that Fred bought his way out of trouble.

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Hey, genius!! Isn't that the way Fred usually makes things go away? Or is it how he makes things stay...like the RLA? Matt says he needs you to polish the knob... on his throne. Get moving!

 

[Cactus]

If FedEx wrote a check to make it go away (as UPS did), the usual gang of idiots here would be screaming that Fred bought his way out of trouble.

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What is this? Pearls of wisdom from the guy who cleans Fred's toilets?

 

[SmithBarney]

Well I'm in agreement with FedEx here, We as a company cannot be responsible for the contents of shipments, outside of the normal questions like the USPS asks, ie "anything dangerous, fragile, etc etc in the box" The Feds would have to PROVE that FedEx knowingly shipped illegal items. Once a legal issue like this pops up and is settled, it sets a precedent for all future issues with FedEX shipping illegal items, guns, drugs(non pharm.) etc etc. Thus requiring FedEx to somehow implement a procedure to "check" every package? I don't see how this will go over.

The notion that "FedEx bought it self out of trouble" can only be made with the assumption that FedEx KNEW without a doubt that it was shipping illegal items. I feel if they did "pay" it would be an admission of guilt (kinda like paying a speeding ticket even know you really didn't think you were speeding but you can't afford the hassel or cost to go to court)

 

[MrFedEx]

What is this? Pearls of wisdom from the guy who cleans Fred's toilets?

Where do you think he gets his "pearls" of wisdom? Or are they nuggets?

 

[Hate 150lb Packages]

Or maybe it's "liquid courage", depending on Freds diet. At his age, Im sure he drinks plenty of Ensure. /end poop metaphors

 

[59 Dano]

Hey, genius!! Isn't that the way Fred usually makes things go away? Or is it how he makes things stay...like the RLA?

As I said, you complain if Fred "writes a check to make it go away," you complain if he doesn't.

Matt says he needs you to polish the knob

Send your wife. She probably feels neglected unless some of your co-workers have some free time...

 

[59 Dano]

Well I'm in agreement with FedEx here, We as a company cannot be responsible for the contents of shipments, outside of the normal questions like the USPS asks, ie "anything dangerous, fragile, etc etc in the box" The Feds would have to PROVE that FedEx knowingly shipped illegal items. Once a legal issue like this pops up and is settled, it sets a precedent for all future issues with FedEX shipping illegal items, guns, drugs(non pharm.) etc etc.

Funny, the legal experts who post here never said anything about that stuff.

 

[MrFedEx]

Funny, the legal experts who post here never said anything about that stuff.

FedEx has knowingly shipped illegal stuff for years. We are the #1 choice of drug shippers because we seldom ask questions and/or monitor shipments. I've seen the cops at the ramp just a few times over the years, and most of the time they are training, not actively searching for dope-filled packages. This issue doesn't set a precedent for other items because online pharmacies don't ship items other than drugs. The Feds have a legitimate concern that people are ordering drugs they shouldn't be able to access easily (think Xanax) or obtain and use without proper medical supervision (Viagra etc). FedEx knows what the online pharmacies are shipping, and they chose to look the other way because it was profitable. Simple.

 

[59 Dano]

FedEx has knowingly shipped illegal stuff for years. We are the #1 choice of drug shippers because we seldom ask questions and/or monitor shipments. I've seen the cops at the ramp just a few times over the years, and most of the time they are training, not actively searching for dope-filled packages. This issue doesn't set a precedent for other items because online pharmacies don't ship items other than drugs. The Feds have a legitimate concern that people are ordering drugs they shouldn't be able to access easily (think Xanax) or obtain and use without proper medical supervision (Viagra etc). FedEx knows what the online pharmacies are shipping, and they chose to look the other way because it was profitable. Simple.

UPS has tacitly admitted to knowingly and willingly facilitating criminal activity. As fredly00 pointed out, it sets a very heavy precedent. Admitting to something of that magnitude opens FedEx (or anyone else) to tremendous liability issues. If the feds have a case against FedEx, let them prove it.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

UPS has tacitly admitted to knowingly and willingly facilitating criminal activity. As fredly00 pointed out, it sets a very heavy precedent. Admitting to something of that magnitude opens FedEx (or anyone else) to tremendous liability issues. If the feds have a case against FedEx, let them prove it.

Nice try.

UPS wrote a check to avoid the litigation process. The check did not read "Yeah, we know we did it" in the memo section. It is common practice to pay a negotiated settlement without admitting guilt.

Let's check back here in a year or so to see who made the right move.

 

[MrFedEx]

Nice try.

UPS wrote a check to avoid the litigation process. The check did not read "Yeah, we know we did it" in the memo section. It is common practice to pay a negotiated settlement without admitting guilt.

Let's check back here in a year or so to see who made the right move.

FedEx fights everything, even when it isn't in their best interests to do so. Fred operates as if he is above the law, and in many cases, he apparently is. Not on this issue.

 

[MrFedEx]

UPS has tacitly admitted to knowingly and willingly facilitating criminal activity. As fredly00 pointed out, it sets a very heavy precedent. Admitting to something of that magnitude opens FedEx (or anyone else) to tremendous liability issues. If the feds have a case against FedEx, let them prove it.

I'm sure they will.

 

[thedownhillEXPRESS]

And then Dano will be blaming Obama.

 

[vantexan]

And then Dano will be blaming Obama.

Why not? He's usually to blame....