Anyone else read it like this...

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by Whaaaaaa, Apr 20, 2019.

  1. Whaaaaaa

    Whaaaaaa New Member

    Thanks in advance. I’m currently in progression, as a driver. Now in the past, progression got paid at set increments, so when FTers (out of progression) got their yearly raises, those in progression didn’t get any. Well, the question is, the way I read it, the new Master Agreement clearly states, “Full time employees still in progression on the effective date of this Master Agreement shall receive the above contractual increases.” (Referring to the .70, .75, etc yearly raises.) (see attached screenshot of master agreement page)

    So, according to the progression chart, after 24 months, my rate should go to $24. Then I should also get the $.70 for 2018, for a total of $24.70 hourly. I asked someone from the union and they weren’t sure. Seems to be in black and white to me.

    You guys agree?

  2. silenze

    silenze Lunch is the best part of the day

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  3. Whaaaaaa

    Whaaaaaa New Member

    Thanks, Silenze, for your answer. And I agree lunch is the best part of the day.
  4. WTFm8

    WTFm8 Active Member


    Progression wages are national rates. Top rate is supplement language.

    Annual raises are separate of progression language and only applies to top-rate.

    Top rate will increase based on the annual raise chart you posted. Your progression wages will be the progression chart.
  5. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

  6. Rack em

    Rack em First to worst!

    @WTFm8 is correct. You get your yearly progression raise on your FT driving seniority date until you hit top rate. Then once you top out, you get the annual raise in August.
  7. Whaaaaaa

    Whaaaaaa New Member

    WTFm8, if you were right, then why would it say, ‘if you are still in progression you will get the raises’.? If I was top-rate already, I wouldn’t be in progression anymore and that statement wouldn’t be necessary.
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  8. Whaaaaaa

    Whaaaaaa New Member

    Also, not to mention, that statement was never in the previous contracts. For it to be included now indicates there is a difference, that difference being that all full-time drivers get the annual raises, even those in progression.
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  9. Rack em

    Rack em First to worst!

    Notice how the language you are referring to isn't in bold. That means it isn't new language and it carried over from previous contracts. Therefore, things will be done how they have been done in previous contracts. You get your progression raise while in progression, not progression raise plus the annual raise you greedy SOB.
  10. Whaaaaaa

    Whaaaaaa New Member

    @Rack em
    I’m only analyzing what is written.
    I forgive you for your nasty comment.
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  11. Benben

    Benben Working on a new degree, Masters in BS Detecting!

    The $.70 raise only applies to the top rate. Once you hit top rate you get it. You do not add it to the increase in progression hourly pay amounts.
  12. MC0493

    MC0493 Active Member

    If you're still in progression then the small contractual raises are not for you. If you're making $21 an hour right now, you'll go to $24 once the contract goes through and you'll get your next raise to $28.75 on your anniversary. Once you've finished progression you'll go up to "top rate" whatever that may be in your local. Those small raises apply only to the top rate each year.
  13. ManInBrown

    ManInBrown Well-Known Member

    You don’t get the yearly bump. You only get the progression bump
  14. Griffin1820

    Griffin1820 File! File! File!

    What is split wage increases?
  15. clean hairy

    clean hairy Well-Known Member

    1/2 of the raise would be in Feb, the 2nd half would be in Aug
  16. zubenelgenubi

    zubenelgenubi Well-Known Member

    But the progression bumps are yearly.
  17. upschuck

    upschuck Well-Known Member

    Actually, it is the other way around. The first half is in Aug, with the second in Feb, of the following year.
  18. 22.34life

    22.34life Active Member

    No GWI for any employee in progession,that is all.