Anyone know how a driver's estimated work day plan is formulated? (over/under "plan")

[Dracula]

Re: Anyone know how a driver's estimated work day plan is formulated? (over/under "pl

This is what I quickly found out. When I first started, obviously the biggest challenge is having no idea where you are (I was placed in a center 50 miles from my home so had absolutely zero area knowledge). Weeks go by and you start getting all the streets down. After that, you learn highs and lows (address #'s). Months go by and you begin to remember exactly where a majority of specific addresses are. That's when it really all falls into place and you become really efficient and don't have to put much mental thought into your job anymore. It just comes naturally. It makes you feel so much better. I remember those first few days alone after training, running around like a chicken with its head cut off, LOL.

And when, months, years later, you can do the job without thinking, that is when you need to renew your efforts at safety. Because safety tends to taper off when you get too comfortable. Never get too cozy doing this job, whether that is part-time, package car or feeders.

Never get fired from this place because you got lazy or put your guard down. No one wants to have pictures of your wrecked truck on the bulletin board.

 

[BrownChoice]

Re: Anyone know how a driver's estimated work day plan is formulated? (over/under "pl

Learn the 5 habits and the 10 point. Careful with telematics if your center has it. If anything happens they look at your telematics for the last 30 days and if you know the verbatim!

 

[JL 0513]

Re: Anyone know how a driver's estimated work day plan is formulated? (over/under "pl

Learn the 5 habits and the 10 point. Careful with telematics if your center has it. If anything happens they look at your telematics for the last 30 days and if you know the verbatim!

Are you in the right thread?

 

[DS]

Re: Anyone know how a driver's estimated work day plan is formulated? (over/under "pl

Firstly,Dracula is right on with his point about getting too comfortable.
You tend to become complacent over time if you do the same area every day.
I've been in the same run 23 years and I took out a fire hydrant last year because
I forgot to check my right mirror and my tailswing took off my back bumper.

As far as I know,there are several things that affect your planned day.
The one big one that has no variables is your mileage.It takes time to get from one place to another.
Obtaining a signature gets you an allowance,I believe it's 30 seconds.Recording overweights,1 minute,
Leave building time.Make it as late as possible without lying.Return to building as early as possible.
Pickup allowance increases dramatically if you pick up lots of packages .
Ask...no,Tell your Sup to start posting the operations report.This document is the one
they view every morning to assess you previous days performance.
I believe the contract states they must post it every morning, it's like that here.
The weight of packages is not considered.

 

[BrownChoice]

Re: Anyone know how a driver's estimated work day plan is formulated? (over/under "pl

Are you in the right thread?

I was following Draculas post. So no, not exactly.

 

[BrownArmy]

Re: Anyone know how a driver's estimated work day plan is formulated? (over/under "pl

I'm cover, and I have to say, I've been driving with the company for over five years, and I've only seen an operations report once, when a sup left one in a truck which I drove the next day.

As far as I can tell, it's rubbish.

Sup: "You were two hours paid over..."

Me: "I have no idea what you're talking about."

Sup, holding a piece of paper: "Right here, it says that you're paid over for your 'planned' day!!? It's right here!"

Me: "Does that number include the fact that we didn't get out of the building until 9:20, but we were told to put 9:00 as 'left building' time?"

Sup: "Well, that's not..."

Me: "Does that number include the -count them- three misload meets?"

Sup: "Look..."

Me: "Does that number include the insane dispatch the the new dispatch guy put on this route?"

Sup: " ... "

Me: " ... "

Sup: "Get to work."


It's a scam, don't buy into it. It would have more meaning if the variables weren't constantly under flux, and if the 'numbers' actually reflected the changes to your day.

They don't.

YMMV.

 

[Buck Fifty]

Re: Anyone know how a driver's estimated work day plan is formulated? (over/under "pl

Say goodnight Gracie.

 

[JL 0513]

Re: Anyone know how a driver's estimated work day plan is formulated? (over/under "pl

I was following Draculas post. So no, not exactly.

Oh, OK. Just seemed out of context with no quote.

 

[JL 0513]

Re: Anyone know how a driver's estimated work day plan is formulated? (over/under "pl

Firstly,Dracula is right on with his point about getting too comfortable.
You tend to become complacent over time if you do the same area every day.
I've been in the same run 23 years and I took out a fire hydrant last year because
I forgot to check my right mirror and my tailswing took off my back bumper.

As far as I know,there are several things that affect your planned day.
The one big one that has no variables is your mileage.It takes time to get from one place to another.
Obtaining a signature gets you an allowance,I believe it's 30 seconds.Recording overweights,1 minute,
Leave building time.Make it as late as possible without lying.Return to building as early as possible.
Pickup allowance increases dramatically if you pick up lots of packages .
Ask...no,Tell your Sup to start posting the operations report.This document is the one
they view every morning to assess you previous days performance.
I believe the contract states they must post it every morning, it's like that here.
The weight of packages is not considered.

Nice info. Thanks.

Couple of things:

I never input a left building time. I just put in the start time every morning - always 9:00. Unless there's an approved meeting earlier. So you're supposed to put in the time you actually leave? Where?

I've also never recorded heavy weight p/u's. My Sup never showed me that either.

Like a lot of things, it's not at all fair that heavy weight deliveries don't have more allowance. So a huge 150 lb package that you have to go out the back door and load onto your 2-wheeler and then push it to location and unload it. And then reload 2-wheeler. All this is the same time allowance as unloading and delivering a letter? Nice.

And like I said earlier, I've never seen an operations report. Wouldn't know where it is. I have no idea how my production is since I started. Only feel I get is about when I get in vs other drivers overall. LOL.

Oh yeah, here's a question I meant to ask which you reminded me of. About mileage. Is your pre-planned allowance based on EDD's predicted mileage for your stops that day? Because I run my route much more efficiently than what EDD sets it up as. My mileage would be way higher if I followed EDD exactly. Isn't it better to beat planned mileage?

 

[jim_flint]

Re: Anyone know how a driver's estimated work day plan is formulated? (over/under "pl

I never input a left building time. I just put in the start time every morning - always 9:00. Unless there's an approved meeting earlier. So you're supposed to put in the time you actually leave? Where?

TimeCard->InsideBldg

Oh yeah, here's a question I meant to ask which you reminded me of. About mileage. Is your pre-planned allowance based on EDD's predicted mileage for your stops that day? Because I run my route much more efficiently than what EDD sets it up as. My mileage would be way higher if I followed EDD exactly. Isn't it better to beat planned mileage?

Actual mileage adds to your time allowed. How many clicks you are allowed per mile will be different for different routes (rural, urban, etc.) If your mileage is too high (like you're trying to pad your time allowed, or you decided to drive to the next county on your lunch break), someone is going to notice and confront you about it.

 

['Lord Brown's bidding']

Re: Anyone know how a driver's estimated work day plan is formulated? (over/under "pl

I caught a glimpse of a sup's timestudy card recently during a ride. Some observations:

Each "stop= 5secs
1 packgage=4 secs, or 9 secs total for the stop thus far; 5 secs for each additonal pkg
11 secs to walk 10+ feet ONE WAY
20 secs if sorting the truck (i.e. moving up a section of the shelf to the 30-inch selection area)

From my own personal studies, 1 mile in my loop equals roughly 8 mins; I tried to confirm this with the sup, who would only say that sounded about right.

A pickup piece has more allowance than a delivery piece, but a delivery stop has more allowance than a pickup stop (something like .64 vs .623)

Also, a signature is worth 15 secs in my loop.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Re: Anyone know how a driver's estimated work day plan is formulated? (over/under "pl

I caught a glimpse of a sup's timestudy card recently during a ride. Some observations:

Each "stop= 5secs
1 packgage=4 secs, or 9 secs total for the stop thus far; 5 secs for each additonal pkg
11 secs to walk 10+ feet ONE WAY
20 secs if sorting the truck (i.e. moving up a section of the shelf to the 30-inch selection area)

From my own personal studies, 1 mile in my loop equals roughly 8 mins; I tried to confirm this with the sup, who would only say that sounded about right.
That and a buck 75 will buy you a cup of coffee........lol
A pickup piece has more allowance than a delivery piece, but a delivery stop has more allowance than a pickup stop (something like .64 vs .623)

Also, a signature is worth 15 secs in my loop.

 

['Lord Brown's bidding']

Re: Anyone know how a driver's estimated work day plan is formulated? (over/under "pl

As far as complacency goes, I think there is a difference between complacency and proficiency; I find it hard to become complacent in any aspect of the operations, because as simple as they see, things change everyday from one day to the next; it's not like typing up reports everyday. Even in loading, one day your 5000 shelf is blown out and the 3000 is not, so you have to shuffle things around; the next day it's the 1000 shelf. Or you could have a day like my loader had today, where I had like ten different stops with at least 10 pieces (5 or 6 with 20+pieces, none small). Dude had bits of the bulk stops all around the truck, which wore me out.Tomorrow I aim to have a better day, so I will be anything but complacent.

If I ever do get complacent, it isn't with the methods, but with time management, and every time the route always reminds me never to take anything for granted.

Someone once shared with me the four stages of learning a skill:

Unconsciously incompetent: you don't know you don't know nothin'.

Consciously Incompetent: you know you don't know nothin'

Consciously Competent: You know you know something, but have to think about it to do it right.

Unconsciously Competent: You don't really think about it; the basics are instinctive.

For me, I unconsciously move my eyes every two seconds, always checking my mirrors, and observers often point this out; same with my turn signals. However, the times of HOW I use my signals change from day to day, thus I don't get complacent, because it does require some forethought of when to use it.

 

[jumpman23]

Re: Anyone know how a driver's estimated work day plan is formulated? (over/under "pl

You do the job the best you can. If your over your over who cares lol. Some days your going to look like a rockstar and some day your going to look like a . That's how the game is played.

 

[overallowed]

Re: Anyone know how a driver's estimated work day plan is formulated? (over/under "pl

They take the amount of room in your truck, divide it by incoming stops, multiply it by the amount of people who care, and add 4. That is your stop count for the day.

 

[brostalss]

Re: Anyone know how a driver's estimated work day plan is formulated? (over/under "pl

Ah yes, our planned day. The UPS math is the most complex ever. They have taken every factor into consideration. Weather, tuck behind home, school office in the middle of the campus, a third floor apt stop, etc, etc.

BULLS#%T!!!!

 

[Covemastah]

Re: Anyone know how a driver's estimated work day plan is formulated? (over/under "pl

The numbers on your check are the most important ones, all others are just dribble from their mouths !!

 

[Jack4343]

Re: Anyone know how a driver's estimated work day plan is formulated? (over/under "pl

Here's how I imagine it...

 

[Jack4343]

Re: Anyone know how a driver's estimated work day plan is formulated? (over/under "pl

or this...

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