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Who's they?
As of Today, Do You Feel the TA Will Pass or Fail?
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Who's they?
Catatonic
Nine Lives
If stress is a consideration then management would be dead in 1 year.
Joints being worn out does not shorten a person's life by 25 years.
Try again.
It's been a couple of years but I got one of my UPS friends to look this up.
She could not look at retirees with Teamster provided pension and insurance.
It was about even ... the average years after retirement before death was 23 and 26 years as I remember ... seems like the Non-management was 26.
Some died younger but some were in their 80s and 90s.
That's why UPS wants to get out of the pension and retiree insurance business. UPSers are living longer and the cost to UPS is more of a liability with every passing year.
If drivers were dying after 5 to 8 years into retirement, there would be no problem with pension funding. Think about it.
Instead of being funded at 70 - 100% ... they would be over-funded at 400 - 500% according to actuarial rules.
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I suppose its all about how you handle stress. About the only stress I see doing this job on a day to day basis is getting out of the building 20 minutes later than I'm supposed to with two pages worth of air on my diad with a 30minute plus drive to get to the area where my route is. Aside from that, its not really stressful.
Yes, gearing up for that 10am conference call and then stealing time until 4:45 when you skate out of the building to go home can be daunting.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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Our center manager, who was recently relieved of his duties, would usually be at work from 7am-7pm M-friend. He would also go to the airport on Saturday mornings to make sure the air operation was all set to go and would then go to the building for a few hours. It was not uncommon for him to put in 60-70 hour weeks. Sadly, he did not have a life outside of work and his recent job loss has left with him with way too much time on his hands.
I was just busting Hoax balls.
Why was he relieved of his duties?
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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The details are not important.
Anonymous 10
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Why did he get fired Dave?
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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None of your damn business!!!!!
What'dyabringmetoday???
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Perhaps you should not have mentioned it here to begin with. (This is not stalking)
Nimnim
The Nim
While my ballot will be no, and I'd prefer a better TA to vote yes on, I think the odds of it passing are in the yes category. I personally feel more voters will be short sighted and just see the immediate benefits, raises and pension increases, and for them I find it hard to argue. However for those of us who haven't achieved the lovely FT status and have made it through progression we're getting the short hand, it's still not bad but it's worse than before.
I will hold no ill regard for those that vote yes, but I do not feel this TA is in the best interest of all who will be affected by it.
I will hold no ill regard for those that vote yes, but I do not feel this TA is in the best interest of all who will be affected by it.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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Perhaps you are right. (This is not agreeing)
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uber
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Sad that you knew his itinerary.
anonymous4
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This TA is going down hard in my local. Will be a 2:1 NO vote here.
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How do you know?
Also, do they show vote results by regions after all is said and done?
brownmonster
Man of Great Wisdom
I voted. If it passes or doesn't, I will deal with it when the time comes.
anonymous4
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Our local was a heavy no vote last contract. Word on the street says this TA is a turd and even less people will be voting "Yes". If it fails we get to hear the cries that we just gave Fedex more volume. Our corrupted union should have presented us with a fair contract. How about UPS diagnoses itself as a greedy child who is costing itself business by insisting on concessions our poor backs can't accept. Save the guilt trip.
brown_trousers
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I would of liked to see a lot more improvements in this TA, but bottom line, pass or fail, we will all still be in a better position than the 80% of americans out there with horrible low paying jobs, little benefits, bad working conditions, or just unemployed.
I will be grateful for the job I have, even if this TA passes!
I will be grateful for the job I have, even if this TA passes!
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