Ask a PT supervisor anything.

anonymous4

Well-Known Member
Your intentions here are pure and grand. With a name like "Yourboss", your way or the highway. I asked you if you truly believed what you have been promised as to your promotion after school. You became offended enough to say I should have stayed in school. You're not a troll, though. I asked that because I have known several great PT soups who had done their time and were promised great things but were held back by nonsense that seems to rule UPS management and life in general. Tears abound so I will hold back on the details. Nothing is guaranteed and if you are so naive to spout that bs, you need to "stay in school". Perhaps that's the root of the problem in your case. Please, point out to me the great things that await you with your four year degree, that beat the pay and benefit's teamsters have enjoyed. Your list will be very short. Your forte is not research.

This entire thread was loaded from the get go as was your entire shtick. You might be the greatest PT supervisor to walk the land, you might be the fairest and most generous of all. I truly hope you get that FT slot and make your wildest dreams come true at UPS and beyond. Truthfully though, something leads me to the ASSumption that you are just a jackass with a superiority complex, who thinks that the managerial tag and a few years of studying with the shepherd's horde means "something" over other people, be it a bum or a lazy, uneducated teamster. Everything about your trolling screams of the disorders you've been taught in your psychology classes, as this entire thread was a play on the "god-bug". Seek a therapist as I see way too many of you idiots running around screaming orders at people just to hear their own hollow voice.

On topic though, how do you feel about your fellow supervisors who don't do union labor? For instance, in my hub, on my shift, nearly every PT supervisor has been relegated to writing essays on employees, spinning the same observations every day then moonlighting as union workers. If there are 30 supervisors, 24 partake in union work for a significant allotment of time for example. How do you personally feel about those soups who are not "team players"? Are they doing the right thing by following the agreement UPS has made with the teamsters or do you feel otherwise? Here, the soups who choose not to do union labor are often shunned by their peers and looked down upon. Is this a different situation in your location and on your shift? Perhaps a stronger union presence?
 
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brownmonster

Man of Great Wisdom
Does your regular loader "custom load" and did the replacement loader follow the PAL labels?[/QUOTE

My first 4 rear stops are RDL RDC RDR and 8999. The 8999 is first but if it has floor behind the other 3 that causes trouble. They can be loaded correctly but the order they come out is important. The loader much like the driver still needs area knowledge no computer can replace.
 

Macbrother

Well-Known Member
Legit question. My loader was on vacation this week. My rear stops come out in a certain order, not a jumbled mess. Why can't the preload Supe inform the replacement loader as to the order of how my stops are delivered? Nothing like climbing or digging for 10 minutes at my first stop.
We have three PT sups on preload at our center. None of them have the first clue about any driver's particular routes, really that's between the loader and the driver. All the sup sees is RDR, RDL, etc. When I was moved to a new loading spot in the building the guy beside me took me aside and told me of the particular nuances of X, Y, Z driver's trucks; that's your best bet.
 

Returntosender

Well-Known Member
Tonight while waiting for the PCM. The radio was playing in the background, guys were talking about life, I however was thinking "yourboss" posts. Yourboss you need music to precede you entering the hub, and addressing the workers, so the workers know your presence is imminent. Yourboss I'm assuming your young, ambitious and is going to conquer the UPS world. I found a song that suits your current personality.



[video=youtube;BHfE682mm3c]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHfE682mm3c&feature=related[/video] You could use at your wedding? So your future wife knows. "My way or the highway. "
 

anonymous4

Well-Known Member
Always remember even the mightiest are dwarfed.

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BSWALKS

Fugitive From Reality
OMG, Covemaster, me and a couple others played this game on a long haul once.

It got really weird.......!!!!!!
Or how bout this game for the New England boys?
Jc Monahan, Nelly Carreno, or Dylan Dreyer(she's gone but deserves to be in this survey)
 
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Loufan

Guest
I've always wondered how you get paid, i never get a consistent answer. Are you salary or hourly? Someone told me salary but if you go over a certain amount of hours you get paid for those hours. Also someone else told me just salary no extra which if true has to suck during peak season.
 

UPS Lifer

Well-Known Member
I don't care about your "credentials" mine look better on paper than yours. I'm probably old enough to be your father. When you where still in Diapers and sucking your thumb. I already graduated U.S. Army warrant officer candidate School and U.S. Army Flight School and was flying a AH-1F cnite Cobra. View attachment 7550 I'm licensed commercial helicopter pilot. I also have a BS degree in Human factors and Psychology. I work at UPS because I make more money working for UPS than I would in my field of study I also get free health insurance a pension and and 401K.

I'm not bitter I like my job at UPS. It allows me to spoil my children rotten.

You got it wrong you are the enemy. My friends are in the union those that cross the line to the other side can't be trusted and should be trusted...

You have 24 post nobody cares what you think about thread hyjacking your still wet behind the ears and I don't mean at UPS or on BC.

I was reading your post and had moved my cursor to the "like" area until I got to the line highlighted above. I have NEVER EVER appreciated or had much respect for someone who took the approach that it is us against them. Especially someone who thinks you are the enemy!!! BTW - This goes for management also. You wouldn't work for me if you let me see that type of attitude. Every one of us is a UPS employee. We are all here to do a job and we need to work together to take care of our customers and provide for public and employee safety.

I instructed PT Supervisors to avoid "taking on" a full time employee - especially a feeder driver; always get a full-time supervisor or myself to deal with any challenge.

I don't think it is healthy to come to work every day feeling you are dealing with the enemy. It is negative and it will affect your health at some point in your life.
 

UPSGUY72

Well-Known Member
I was reading your post and had moved my cursor to the "like" area until I got to the line highlighted above. I have NEVER EVER appreciated or had much respect for someone who took the approach that it is us against them. Especially someone who thinks you are the enemy!!! BTW - This goes for management also. You wouldn't work for me if you let me see that type of attitude. Every one of us is a UPS employee. We are all here to do a job and we need to work together to take care of our customers and provide for public and employee safety.

I instructed PT Supervisors to avoid "taking on" a full time employee - especially a feeder driver; always get a full-time supervisor or myself to deal with any challenge.

I don't think it is healthy to come to work every day feeling you are dealing with the enemy. It is negative and it will affect your health at some point in your life.

I have a working relationship with my SUPs but they are still the enemy they have there agenda and the union has its agenda. In some building the union is more management friendly in other they are not. In mine we are friendly but management is still the enemy...
 

UPS Lifer

Well-Known Member
I have a working relationship with my SUPs but they are still the enemy they have there agenda and the union has its agenda. In some building the union is more management friendly in other they are not. In mine we are friendly but management is still the enemy...


WHY?

You have a contract. This is one of the reasons I like the concept of having a union and a set of rules and guidelines to keep everyone honest!

I have seen it numerous times. With the right management team, that adversarial relationship goes away and communication improves... and more importantly the treatment and respect of employees comes back. Also, it does take cooperation on the union side as well.

If it is really bad in your building - take it up to a level that you can force a change. I have seen where the most powerful person in the local and sometimes the conference meets with the district manager and region and district labor managers to hammer out a plan that can eliminate a particular problem such as supervisors working or another area we had issues with ... peak working assignments borrowing and loaning folks to other sorts.

You get the district manager involved and chitt happens.
 

FTsince90s

New Member
To Your Boss / others - Many of you consider a PT supervisor position as a dead-end job. This is not so in many cases. In many areas of the country the waiting list is 10+ years to go driving or to be a FT hourly employee. To go from 3 hours a night guaranteed to almost double that at 5.5 hours, is a nice move for many. Also, you get a $6 an hour bump...no brainer. You go from making $135/week to $412/week immediately. Now that isn't much, but it's something and it only goes up from there. For a part-time job it's not bad. Often it's a supplementary job to something else they do during the day. I did it for years, and was able to get FT in a field of interest. Now, FT supervisor, FT specialist & FT manager+ positions typically require a four year degree, but you're making $60k+ and some pass $100k. They typically promote from the PT sup ranks to FT. Some positions the stress is terrible, others...not so bad. Find your niche and you will be fine. I drove package cars quite a few years ago and I know it's a tough job, physically any how. I imagine after 30 years of that my body would be pretty broken down. Don't let some of these folks bring you down. They have the union mentality that anyone not in the union is the enemy it seems. There are some good employees out there and some bad employees out there that are protected by the union unfortunately. There are also some good management and some bad as well. In my 20 years I have seen some crazy things....but I was better off having chosen the PT sup route as opposed to waiting a decade+ into my 30's to get a FT union position. If you have a good worth ethic, some sense and a little bit of perspective about situations.....you can retire at 55 with a fat pension and 7 weeks of vacation making a good salary that doesn't beat you down physically every single day. You're probably not going to get rich, but you won't get rich as a union employee either. You CAN make a very comfortable living in middle management. Just treat people the way you want to be treated and give more latitude of choice to the harder working employees. Everything is not dictated by union seniority.....
 
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