Be careful about recording over 70s
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grgrcr88
No It's not green grocer!
Is this a bonus center? If not then it is nothing more than improper recording, no theft involved.
Funny how the Sups go strait to theft or dishonesty all the time!!!!
soberups
Pees in the brown Koolaid
Even without bonus it can still be construed as dishonesty. By affecting the planned day it can increase or decrease the drivers dispatch.
There is a difference, however, between falsifying records and making a bona fide data entry error.
The company will have to prove that the driver knew he was being dishonest.
We had a guy fired for falsifying his mileage, he was recording an extra 25 miles per day on his odometer reading. He did this every day for weeks, and when they caught him he had no explanation.
Anyone can make a mistake while entering data. But when the mistake benefits you and you keep on making it...it isnt a mistake any more.
MC4YOU2
Wherever I see Trump, it smells like he's Putin.
While it may or not be an ethics issue, I believe he will be reinstated if he goes the distance on this. We had a couple of employees fired on very flimsy unrelated dishonesty cases that were both reinstated after the mgmt team lost pretty much the hearts and minds of the remaining crew.
UPS has made this their whipping stick of choice since they alone define the broad brush of dishonesty. This simply makes it harder for them to keep the paint off their pants when someone is truly dishonest.
Its like the boy who cried wolf and was finally eaten by real wolves when the towns people thought it was another fake out.
brownrodster
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I've had many, many packages that I would bet money that they were over 70's. But didn't enter them as such because the weight on the label was not 70 or more.
It's pretty obvious that to enter a package as over 70 then it has to be over 70. And it's only over 70 if it says it's over 70 on the label. I'm not at liberty to guess a weight or put my job on the line for a guess.
On the flip side I've entered packages as over 70 when the label say's they are over 70 (and even have heavy tape) but are obviously in the 40-50 pound range. This is a grey area. Kind of dishonest but not really. But hey I'm not a human scale. If the label lists it's weight as over 70 then it is over 70.
I've picked up countless packages that were 68-69 pounds on the label. That is not over 70. And I have never listed them as such.
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brownmonster
Man of Great Wisdom
The average is probably 3 or 4 a day for most drivers. This company is all about averages. When you start showing up on reports well above the averages someones going to start looking.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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I have always thought that the time required to record an over 70 is probably greater than the allowance you will receive resulting in a negative allowance.
Does anyone know what fraction of a second is given for handling an over 70.
I bet it's the same length of time it takes for the pkg to fall from your hands to the top of your foot.
Does anyone know what fraction of a second is given for handling an over 70.
I bet it's the same length of time it takes for the pkg to fall from your hands to the top of your foot.
It may be a negative on your allowance, but it's a positive on your paycheck. Time is money
stevetheupsguy
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Can you sheet a pkg as an over 70 if the combined weight of say, 5 pkgs on your handcart is over 70lbs?
As far as the ars pkgs. What if you pick up ars pkgs from one of your scheduled pick ups? Don't you scan them along with the rest of the pkgs and include them in your pick up tally?
As far as the ars pkgs. What if you pick up ars pkgs from one of your scheduled pick ups? Don't you scan them along with the rest of the pkgs and include them in your pick up tally?
Sure you can. As long as you don't mind explaining your reasoning at panel.
That is correct, as far as I know. That's the way I do it anyway.
UnconTROLLed
perfection
Sure you can. As long as you don't mind explaining your reasoning at panel.
That is correct, as far as I know. That's the way I do it anyway.
No, ARS and RS packages are seperate. You still sheet them in splcts
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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I simply scan them and add them to a daily P/U.
That is how I was instructed, and that is what I do.
brownrodster
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I scan ARS seperate under special accounts as a prepaid package.
stevetheupsguy
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Do you scan them seperately at a pick up as well, or do you just scan all of the pkgs, tally and stop complete?
was wondering if any other areas were being told NOT to sheet up over 70's even if they are? We were told about a year ago to stop using that option!!! "was going to be discontinued" anyway. Another sad attempt from one of our 7 Sups we have had in 3 years at our center. Can't imagine why that happens can you? I am a steward and the drivers have been asking me. Just thought I can save a call to the rep if you guys know.
OVERBOARD
Don't believe everything you think
I thing your Sup is wrong . In my center you can still record over 70, you just can't use special count A or B. I know this because I use special A once and the next day there was a ltr in my mail slot from I.E informing me if use it again i could face discipline and my sup wanted me to sign but I accidently threw it in the trash.
