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[Operational needs]

Why do you hate Americans so much?

I could be wrong here, but it seems to me that if some one hates Americans so much, they wouldn't have joined the Marines knowing full well that they could be killed fighting for those Americans. Did you?

 

[MAKAVELI]

I could be wrong here, but it seems to me that if some one hates Americans so much, they wouldn't have joined the Marines knowing full well that they could be killed fighting for those Americans. Did you?

I have family members who have served and show more class than the people on this board who " claim to have served". And yes you could be wrong.

 

[ch317273]

I could be wrong here, but it seems to me that if some one hates Americans so much, they wouldn't have joined the Marines knowing full well that they could be killed fighting for those Americans. Did you?

Hey op needs, yep I enlisted right out of high school in May of 2001, served in the 1st battalion 1st marines out of Pendleton in San diego, "first of the first" was battalion alias, did my full 5 but last 2 were at the usmc recruit depot on Paris island as an instructor ( E-5 sergeant)due to injury sustained in the beautiful korengal valley of Afghanistan on June 9th of 2003, was hit in right femur with what was found to be 2 separate 7.62 x 39mm rounds fired by Taliban Kalashnikov ak47 during routine inspection of village outside Darbart, I received Purple Heart and bronze star from that day, but it took me the remaining 2 years of crappy surgeries and PT to get back into the swing of things.... So for anyone to even remotely hint that I somehow don't like America or Americans is truly a sick individual who should be ashamed of themselves, especially since my brother was a specialist in the 173rd airborne in Iraq and lost his left arm

 

[ch317273]

I have family members who have served and show more class than the people on this board who " claim to have served". And yes you could be wrong.

Speaking my opinion on Ben Carson being a good guy , how scum like Al sharpton exploit people, and speaking my opinion on how democrats have used what I call dirty ways and means to get votes to you registers as me not having class? There truly is no point in even acknowledging anything you have to say about the matter, and the fact that you mock my military service, well if your looking for a class-less person, just look in your mirror

 

[wkmac]

"There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking the root."
Henry David Thoreau

Again, I pose the question, in whose pocket does the welfare dollar ultimately come to rest in? There you will find the true beneficiary of poverty and gov't poverty programs.

If you think the SNAP food stamps debate is about poor people’s need to eat, you’re wrong. It’s about big corporations’ need to profit. “Xerox, JPMorgan Chase and eFunds Corporation have all successfully turned poverty into a profit center.” So have Coca Cola, Kroger, Wal-Mart, Kelloggs and a large slice of the rest of the Fortune 500 corporations.

Food Stamp Corporate Welfare

Originally conceived as a means to prop up sagging crop prices to support American farmers, theFood Stamp Program, now called the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or SNAP, hasexploded into a welfare program that costs tax payers a record $75.67 billion in 2011........

The Food Stamp Program began as an attempt to support farmers through stabilizing the prices of farm products. During the Great Depression, the federal government began purchasing “excess commodities” with federal money and distributing them to the poor. In 1935, the Federal Surplus Commodities Corporation “was formed to dispense commodities by focusing on
encouraging domestic consumption of surpluses.” On May 16, 1939, in Rochester, New York, this first foray into the public provision of commodity support transitioned into the first food stamp program. By May 1941, advocates of the Food Stamp Program promoted its expansion as part of the National Defense Plan. However, this first attempt at commodity price regulationended in 1943 amid widespread fraud, abuse, and general mismanagement. No food stamp program was proposed again until the Kennedy Administration. Fulfilling acampaign promise, President Kennedy began a food stamp pilot program in 1961 under executive order 10914.
Profits from Poverty: How Food Stamps Benefit Corporations

Rich Corporations Big Companies Profiting from Food Stamp and Welfare Programs

 

[realbrown1]

I have family members who have served and show more class than the people on this board who " claim to have served". And yes you could be wrong.

Having family members who served is no wheres close to having served.

Having chosen to not serve, says a lot about you.

Isn't it funny how no one from the TROLL PATROL has served. One of you appears to have attempted to serve, but apparently couldn't make it through basic training. That also says a lot about the bunch of you.

 

[realbrown1]

"There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking the root."
Henry David Thoreau

Again, I pose the question, in whose pocket does the welfare dollar ultimately come to rest in? There you will find the true beneficiary of poverty and gov't poverty programs.









Rich Corporations Big Companies Profiting from Food Stamp and Welfare Programs

Welfare, food stamps and public housing assistance needs to be a 2 year maximum lifetime benefit for abled body adults.

I don't care if big companies benefit from the welfare programs. Put a 2 year maximum lifetime benefit cap on it now. How hard is that to do?

 

[wkmac]

In the drive to obtain power, everyone out for said power exploits people. Some more than others but all tell their followers what they want to hear and not what they need to hear.

 

[The Other Side]

Welfare, food stamps and public housing assistance needs to be a 2 year maximum lifetime benefit for abled body adults.

I don't care if big companies benefit from the welfare programs. Put a 2 year maximum lifetime benefit cap on it now. How hard is that to do?

So, lets see if I have this correctly.

A soldiers wife is left alone with or without kids while her husband is in another country fighting a useless war. She has only the minimal income he provides and goes to the government for assistance. She gets the assistance and you want to limit it to 2 years, despite the fact that her husband would be called up for two, three, four , five tours as we saw during the BUSH administration.

Many of those families were forced into bankruptcy because of the endless tours of duty. Those National Guard soldiers who signed up for 1 weekend a month and two weeks out of the year, were forced into conflict for as many as 5 tours and ALL of them lost their jobs back at home.

SO, using your logic, his family at home should be forced off welfare and the wife forced to work.

Ya, you got it all figured out.

Dont forget one statistic. WHITE PEOPLE make up the majority of welfare recipients in the USA.

TOS.

 

[sailfish]

...Dont forget one statistic. WHITE PEOPLE make up the majority of welfare recipients in the USA...

How is that relevant?

 

[oldngray]

How is that relevant?

He is just making another one of his racist comments.

 

[wkmac]

Welfare, food stamps and public housing assistance needs to be a 2 year maximum lifetime benefit for abled body adults.

I don't care if big companies benefit from the welfare programs. Put a 2 year maximum lifetime benefit cap on it now. How hard is that to do?

OK, lets take your idea which has potential and put it out on the table.

How would you sell the idea of a 2 year max cap on various welfare programs to the many corp. interests who profit and consider such programs not only of economic value but a potential profit growth source?

How would you convince them to for go their own (and their shareholders) economic interests and thus not campaign fund candidates who advocate for the old welfare system but instead fund candidates who will institute this new 2 year max plan which limits their profit potential?

Being that elected politicians on both sides of the isle are bought and paid for by corp. interests, seems to me to achieve such change would have to be sold to the very folks who bring us gov't in the first place. It's dollars not votes that drive public policy.

A 2 year max on welfare benefits is not so easily a black and white solution but it's an idea worth throwing out to get the conversation started. I'll give you that!

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

OK, lets take your idea which has potential and put it out on the table.

How would you sell the idea of a 2 year max cap on various welfare programs to the many corp. interests who profit and consider such programs not only of economic value but a potential profit growth source?

How would you convince them to for go their own (and their shareholders) economic interests and thus not campaign fund candidates who advocate for the old welfare system but instead fund candidates who will institute this new 2 year max plan which limits their profit potential?

Being that elected politicians on both sides of the isle are bought and paid for by corp. interests, seems to me to achieve such change would have to be sold to the very folks who bring us gov't in the first place. It's dollars not votes that drive public policy.

A 2 year max on welfare benefits is not so easily a black and white solution but it's an idea worth throwing out to get the conversation started. I'll give you that!

How do we fix this mess? Welfare isn't a very high standard if living...but... Its a better living than somebody making $10 an hour. When you factor food,medical and energy assistance. Plus you don't need transportation to work.

 

[The Other Side]

How is that relevant?

Its relevant because the old WHITE people on this board believe that all welfare recipients are lazy blacks and hispanics.

Facts are facts. Whites are the majority of welfare recievers in this country.

You may not like it, but its a fact.

TOS.

 

[brett636]

How is that relevant?

Its the standard operating procedure for a troll. Throw out an irrelevant statement to try to stir the hornets nest.

 

[upschuck]

Its relevant because the old WHITE people on this board believe that all welfare recipients are lazy blacks and hispanics.

Facts are facts. Whites are the majority of welfare recievers in this country.

You may not like it, but its a fact.

TOS.

You must think everyone is as racist as you are.

 

[The Other Side]

You must think everyone is as racist as you are.

NO, just you folks on this board.

TOS.

 

[The Other Side]

Its the standard operating procedure for a troll. Throw out an irrelevant statement to try to stir the hornets nest.

Ya brett, lets leave out that pesky "FACT" that white people make up the majority of welfare recievers.

Lets just call it a "irrelevant statement" because it goes against the right wing talking points that blacks and mexicans are just too lazy to work and just want welfare.

How any of this makes Ben Carson a good politician is beyond me.

Ben Carson took many handouts as a kid. Ben Carson took advantage of all the free government programs he could get his hands on growing up, yet, today, speaks out against such things because thats what PINS the ears back of the average rednecked racist in this country.

TOS.

 

[brett636]

Ya brett, lets leave out that pesky "FACT" that white people make up the majority of welfare recievers.

Lets just call it a "irrelevant statement" because it goes against the right wing talking points that blacks and mexicans are just too lazy to work and just want welfare.

How any of this makes Ben Carson a good politician is beyond me.

Ben Carson took many handouts as a kid. Ben Carson took advantage of all the free government programs he could get his hands on growing up, yet, today, speaks out against such things because thats what PINS the ears back of the average rednecked racist in this country.

TOS.

Found you a new avatar...

 

[BrownArmy]

...Ben Carson took many handouts as a kid. Ben Carson took advantage of all the free government programs he could get his hands on growing up, yet, today, speaks out against such things...
TOS.

Sorry Folks, he's kind of got a point here.