bid route question

[govols019]

Yup! How does a local, or better yet UPS allow guys to come of routes whenever they feel like it, as one previous poster said. It must be a nightmare to make sure all the paperwork is up to snuff.

What paperwork?

UPS just wants a butt in the seat...they don't care who it is.

 

[By The Book]

What paperwork?

UPS just wants a butt in the seat...they don't care who it is.

I'm talking about if they are rebidding them every time someone comes off the route.

 

[hyena]

Man you guys locals suck when it comes to bids.

And you suck when it comes to d*s. So what's your point lmao

 

[Mugarolla]

3 bids a year here.

Have had guys bid a route, run it for a week or two, find out they didn't like it and then bid back on their old route when it goes up for bid.

Have had a few not get their old route back because a higher seniority driver bid on it. So this driver is stuck on the new bid he doesn't like or can now bid on the other route that opened up.

If you bid on a route, you have to withdraw your bid before the bid goes down or you are stuck on it until something else comes up for bid.

 

[jr619]

If you don't like the route you bid for, you can jump off it and become utility driver

 

[Brown Down]

In our center it goes bid, bid, assign. Keeps down on a lot of flip flopping

 

[BigUnionGuy]

Our drivers, when not happy with the route they bid whether they did or didn't drive the new route, have the option to bid their old route back when it goes back up for bid. That's move #2.

Your Local, has a written seniority practice that supersedes the Central Region language ?

And, a JAC interpretation ?


If so.... kudos.



-Bug-

 

[10 point]

Your Local, has a written seniority practice that supersedes the Central Region language ?

And, a JAC interpretation ?


If so.... kudos.



-Bug-

It is an actively followed practice that is not written anywhere in our local (of course). It has never been challenged by any local management at any time because our (retained) bid sheets show the history cycle of bidding practices and therefore past practice is documented.

Glad Leadbelly found that funny.
Hahaha.
Now we all laughed together.

 

[10 point]

3 bids a year here.

Have had guys bid a route, run it for a week or two, find out they didn't like it and then bid back on their old route when it goes up for bid.

Have had a few not get their old route back because a higher seniority driver bid on it. So this driver is stuck on the new bid he doesn't like or can now bid on the other route that opened up.

If you bid on a route, you have to withdraw your bid before the bid goes down or you are stuck on it until something else comes up for bid.

Yep.
Same here.

 

[By The Book]

Your Local, has a written seniority practice that supersedes the Central Region language ?

And, a JAC interpretation ?


If so.... kudos.



-Bug-

I was under the impression if it's in the contract you refer to that language, and if not there's the case for the past practice. It doesn't surprise me that it's different everywhere though.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

I was under the impression if it's in the contract you refer to that language

Absolutely.

and if not there's the case for the past practice.

Past practice, is a hard argument to win.

Assuming.... you meet the key elements.

It is an actively followed practice that is not written anywhere in our local (of course). It has never been challenged by any local management at any time because our (retained) bid sheets show the history cycle of bidding practices and therefore past practice is documented.

Documentation, is the most important factor.


"A past practice is any longstanding, frequent practice that is accepted and known by both union and management."


http://www.labornotes.org/2008/12/understanding-and-defending-past-practices








-Bug-

 

[10 point]

Absolutely.





Past practice, is a hard argument to win.

Assuming.... you meet the key elements.





Documentation, is the most important factor.


"A past practice is any longstanding, frequent practice that is accepted and known by both union and management."


http://www.labornotes.org/2008/12/understanding-and-defending-past-practices








-Bug-

In this work environment we live and die by documentation.

We have gone through about 7 Center managers in the last 10 - 12 years so we gotta have a large trail of documentation or we're wasting our breath.

 

[cb1969]

No they can bid on the new route when it comes up for bid in seniority order if they win the new bid their old (2wk) bid will be posted for bid...

 

[Gotout]

Southern contract is no bidding for 6 months.

Correct.

But why listen to me, I GotOut