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Virescit Vulnere Virtus
Hahaha. Funny.
Big Tax Cut for companies to go back to workers. How much will FDX pay u$?
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Route 66
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never realized ol’ Fredward was such a sexist pig.
Oldfart
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I have a life. I dont read every page of the company papers to find material to bitch and whine about.
dvalleyjim
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Wages go up when employers have to compete for employees. It will happen when the economy grows. X will have to invest in it's people to stay competitive. This is why free markets are the fairest and most successful. Not crony capitalism where you pay politicians to let you have advantages you competitors don't have. (I.E. mis classification of ground employees for union protection and the RTLA (or whatever it is) act. You'll see. Wait and see what capitalism can do compared to the big government socialism and communism you embrace.
You think this president and this congress and the lobbyists they represent are building an free market structure that will prove unsuitable for Fedex Ground? What on earth gives you that idea?
fedx
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I agree with you. Capitalism is the best form of economics. However corporatism is the warped, perverted Frankenstein monster it can become. Corporatism is all about buying up your competition to become bigger and have less competition as a result. And yes, crony corporatism ran rampant under Obama. GE, Google, Facebook, Warren Buffet made deals behind the scenes giving them more power in exchange for doing the government favors (for example Facebook spying on users and passing that info on to NSA, or Warren Buffet getting exclusive rights to use his BNSF toy train set to haul Keystone oil all because he paid off Obama to veto the Keystone Pipeline law).
Here's a fun bit of irony. FexEx Express employees cannot easily unionize because of the Railway Labor Act (RLA) which also covers airlines. However, FedEx pilots are members of the ALPA union and make around $300K a year as a result. So why can't all FedEx Express employees be members of that same airline union that the pilots are members of since FDX is considered an airline? That union would gain about 200,000 new members if couriers/handlers/ramp agents/rtds could join. I'm sure that union has some elite, exclusive membership requirement like you can only be a pilot, but that's stupid to put limits like that on yourself. You open membership to all FDX employees-since we're classified as an airline after all-and you'd see your hourly wage go up like a plane.
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Paswingcourier
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My understanding of unionizing is the pilots were able to do it because (it’s is because of the railroad act) they are all based out of the same place, Memphis. Now on the other hand Couriers/handlers/ramp agents/RTDs are all based of thier Location station/ramp. Trying to get everyone to vote yes at all different locations can prove to be a hard task.
fedx
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FDX has pilots in Memphis, Indy, Dallas, and other cities as well as in other countries. I think if a union was allowed into each station/ramp location and could show/compare current wages vs what it would be under a union, a yes vote wouldn't be extremely hard. FDX could brag about their "10 step pay progression plan" and the union could show their "3 step to top out pay progression plan" and everyone could compare. Hmmm, do I want to top out in 10 years (at best) or 3 years? I know FDX would pull out all the stops to try to stop any union vote. They would "bribe" everyone with free sandwiches and pop. They would throw in a little $50 "bonus check" here and there and tell you "see, you don't need a union here." I've seen it before.
Also I think unions are based on craft. Why drivers at UPS are Teamsters, and we have a pilots union. If our mechanics unionized it would all be mechanics. Might be wrong on that but seems I remember a discussion here years ago about it. And since couriers are scattered across hundreds of locations, and the Railroad Labor Act won't allow local votes, only a national vote, it's about impossible to pull it off. If FedEx had gotten placed under the NLRA in 2010 when those that are supposed to care had the power, FedEx would be union now.
You were the one who immediately ran to the defense of that company disputing the story regarding it's actual net rate of taxation with no collaborated or verifiable evidence to discredit the published story. When that fact was exposed all you had left were insults , personal attacks and most importantly your clear admission that you don't even try to read up on public financial information. The future belongs to the informed and those who try to stay informed not to the ignorant and those who find comfort in being that way.
fedx
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One thing for certain.....if FedEx Express went union, FDX would once again become a "career company" just like UPS. I mean it already is a career company for the long ago topped out folks, but not so much for the newer hires of the last 20+ years. There are currently a lot of employees who have worked for FDX 25, 30, or even more years, but they were in the '3 months' or '18 months' to top out group. Back then, there was no need for a union because FDX took care of their employees. Nowadays, however, turnover is high, because it's not the high paying job that it once was. You bring in a union and raise a couriers starting pay to $25/hr and you'll have lifetime employees once again just like the olden days at FDX. A union wasn't needed way back then, but it is needed now.....at least to raise wages.
Oldfart
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I asked for proof that fedex paid little taxes. I never offered an argument that they do or don't. I have no idea what % of taxes they pay. A statement was made and I asked for proof. I scan thru the proxy but I don't study it and memorize numbers just so I can bitch about something. Operational was the person that said "she knew for a fact" that a VP got a bonus for DRA. Yet when I asked how she knew the bonus was for DRA, she said it was public record. As usual, she didn't have a clue what she was talking about, she just wanted an excuse to bitch. She is good at that. The bonus is public record, why it was given is not.
If you are gonna complain about something, at least have documentation to back up your complaint. Don't make it up like operational likes to do.
I didn't defend or deny, I just asked for proof.
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YOU were the one who immediately went to the defense of that company disputing the report. The burden then shifts to you to offer up contradicting data, not put that burden on to me or onto operational needs. If you have no such evidence but still believe that the report is incorrect withhold comment until you present that evidence. So before you come running to the defense of your beloved company with your brainwashed little mind bring something with you beside personal attacks.
floridays
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Go find a mirror.
floridays
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Wake up, fedex doesn't want career couriers, or any other box touching hourly, other than a ramp agent that may occasionally touch a box.
floridays
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Not sticking up for fart, or what he posted. Look in the mirror again, you do the same constantly. I saw you two years ago with a sheep's back legs stuffed in a pair of hip waders, got it?
I don't fish and two years ago I was in a rehab facility recovering from a hip joint replacement . Clearly a case of mistaken identity .
floridays
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I wasn't alleging you fishing in hip waders, I alleged seeing you screwing a sheep using the waders to hold him/her in place. Gee, the way your kind thinks, the hip replacement offers supporting evidence of the allegation. Thank you.
Just another redneck proverb with references to homosexuality and bestiality. Typical of people from that part of the country.
