rod
Retired 22 years
That has to be the dumbest statement this year.
Broken Treaties between the US Gov't and the Native American Tribes
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That has to be the dumbest statement this year.
PT Car Washer
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MAKAVELI
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You poor, poor white man. You'll be paying for your ancestors sins till the end of time. LMFAO!Good luck. I have personally NEVER stole someone elses land and our side won the war so tough. Get over it. Why don't people realize the Indians were a waring bunch who stole each others land - took other tribes as slaves and were all and all bad people. I don't feel one bit sorry for them. They have been subsidized by the taxpayers of the USA for a hundred years. The supposedly "owed debt" has been paid MANY times over. Today they are basically a burned out (drugged out) group of people who have absolutely no insentive to do anything because EVERYTHING is given to them. Our local Indian casino begs for help (INDIANS hired first) and they can't get but a handful of them to get off their lazy asses and apply for a job. Screw em.
PT Car Washer
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I really doubt it. Money talks and BS walks.
MAKAVELI
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My post was sarcastic. Lol
newfie
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where is the german tribe staying?
newfie
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i dont know if there is much left of anyone who made and broke those promises to bite
newfie
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you'll give it back about december when your nuts are frozen
So if treaties are signed they are no longer enforceable when those that signed them die?
That's what I'm wondering. Interesting that the University of Oklahoma has room to squeeze in a big time football program in Norman just southeast of Oklahoma City while surrounded by all that Native American land. Will definitely be doing more reading on it.
Have a feeling the Sooner Schooner will not be long for this world if a BC hard leftist sees this post and reports it to the BLM/woke authorities. The Native Americans may not be black but there's ample opportunity for outrage and virtue signaling here! LOL
newfie
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happens all the time generations later down the road did not make the committment and dont want to be held to it.
and reservation living has done nothing to improve the lives of the early settlers
Interesting. Hope our families don't lose the homes and land we've passed on to them after we pass away.
newfie
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not the same thing . More like the government promises you can live on land they give you that you never bought and paid for and then you expect to be able to hold onto it forever. the deal was made to keep the indians from fighting so technically todays indians can go back to attacking our wagon trains if we violate the agreement.
No they can't! They didn't pay the white man for their own land! They don't have ownership/defense rights!
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
I've lived in Oklahoma. Most Native American Oklahomans are of mixed ancestry. And when most of their native ancestors were forcibly removed from their homes it was thought that Oklahoma was worthless land that nobody wanted but oil and gas changed that. And it does depend on the tribe. The Mescalero Apaches in New Mexico like to say "The Navajos make rugs, the Hopis make pots, but the Apaches make money."
At any rate you're not going to make the Republican Party a big tent party by telling smaller groups of people that you're from a bigger group and can do as you please. That your word means little.
Pretty certain the SCOTUS ruling on Oklahoma was about jurisdiction. Native American treaty lands are under Federal oversight, not state. And that's not in just in Oklahoma. The Federal government is the biggest landowner in the American West. And that land's oversight belongs to various agencies. Bureau of Land Management, Bureau of Indian Affairs, National Forest Service. Y'all are up in arms over the Indians striking back but doubtful this ruling opened that can of worms.
The irony is that people who were better at conquering, such as the Mongols, Huns, Ottomans, and others forced the very populous Europeans to develop weapons of defense to save themselves. They then with those weapons and large armies conquered much of the world. We tend to think of the developing world as overrun with people but in 1900 25% of the world's population lived in Europe. Since then the world population has exploded and now Europe has about 6% of the population.
bottomups
Bad Moon Risen'
Maybe I'll just mine his gold and then he can have the land back.
newfie
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No they can't! They didn't pay the white man for their own land! They don't have ownership/defense rights!
sadly true. It was a bull
agreement that has hurt the native americans. the melting pot only works when the melting is complete. seperation is destructive to the country and the group seperated as seen on reservations and inner city plantations.
