Central states- ground pay for air drivers

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by bart, Nov 17, 2019.

  1. Bubblehead

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    In order for the Employer, the Union and the employees to further benefit from the expanding air operations, the following Sections shall supersede language on the same subjects in the Supplements, Riders and Addenda, unless specifcally stated otherwise in this Article.

    All I'm saying is Article 40 provides for the penalty of top scale ground pay when air drivers deliver ground....and Article 40 stands alone.
  2. Mugarolla

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    Yes it does, for the time they are delivering.

    When they are done air driving, and start sweeping floors for their other hours, Article 40 does not afford them drivers rate to sweep floors.

    The Central does, if they air drove more than 4 hours, delivering ground, and getting ground rate for those 4+ hours.

    They then get ground rate for sweeping floors, or preloading, or unloading.
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  3. Bubblehead

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    ....yeah, but this was the question asked by the OP (as you are fond of pointing out):

    I'll agree there are other wrinkles, such as "extra work" and "22.3 bid" content that would not qualify for the Company to pay this so-called penalty, but I continue to assert:

    ....and the Central Region Supplement has no standing in the Northern Plains.
  4. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!

    Yeah, but the OP also stated that he does other work besides are exception.

    So if that other work entails non air driving work, I answered both questions.
  5. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!

    Well, he did say Central States. That's a pension plan.
  6. zubenelgenubi

    zubenelgenubi Well-Known Member

    Can someone explain to me what northern plains is in regard to contract language? I can't find any reference to a northern plains region of teamsters anywhere. There is a northern plains district of UPS.
  7. zubenelgenubi

    zubenelgenubi Well-Known Member

    It supercedes language in supplements and riders, except where it says it doesn't. The problem is that Article 40 does not specify what portion of the shift the penalty pay applies to. If a supplement said that there would be no penalty pay, that language would be superceded. But a supplement could fill in the blanks left by the master in regards to how long the penalty pay would apply. That is clearly how it works since the company follows the rules set out in the supplements regarding this issue.

    The only question that remains is what language applies to the OP? I've never heard of Northern Plains, and can't find any reference to it, so my guess is that the central region supplement applies.
  8. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    I am in the Northern Plains District and also fall under the Central Region supplement. One is a UPS organizational division and the other is a legal labor contract.
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  9. Mugarolla

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    Yes it does.

    It specifies air driver.

    If it's a combo job, like an exception air driver and preloader, he is not an air driver while he's preloading, is he?

    For the time he is an air driver, doing air driver work, he gets top package rate for that entire time if he delivers or picks up ground.

    That is the question.

    There isn't any.

    I think North Dakota and Minnesota have their own supplement.
  10. Bubblehead

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    ....which is why I have always said this forum is usually a terrible place to sort out what may be regional or local issues???
  11. zubenelgenubi

    zubenelgenubi Well-Known Member

    I could see the company arguing, based on what is in Article 40, that they only get ground pay for the time they handled/transported ground packages, and not the entire air shift.

    Local 120 covers at least part of Minnesota, North and South Dakota, and Iowa. Maybe there was some shifting of local territory covered that affected the OP.
  12. Maplewood

    Maplewood Active Member

    Here in the West, i know our Saturday Air drivers get full scale driver wage if they touch 1 ground pkg. They are actually instructed to never take ARS pkgs.
  13. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!

    They can argue all they want, and they did.

    They tried exactly that, to only pay ground rate for the time they handle ground packages

    They lost. Paid ground rate the whole time they are air driving.
  14. zubenelgenubi

    zubenelgenubi Well-Known Member

    And that doesn't preclude supplements from extending the ground pay beyond the air driving work.
  15. Mugarolla

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    The Central does if you spend more than 4 hours air driving at top driver rate.
  16. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    And would this pertain as well?
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    Just curious. I could be way off base.
  17. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!

    Yes it is, but the OP asked what the language was in Central States. And I believe he meant Central Region.

    That answer is in black and white.
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  18. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    Pretty sure he meant Central Region. ;) just kidding
  19. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!

    Ha! I fixed it. Thank you.
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  20. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!

    Haven't seen that one before. That's better than the language in the Central.

    What supplement?