Christmas Irony

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by tieguy, Nov 27, 2009.

  1. tieguy

    tieguy Banned

  2. Baba gounj

    Baba gounj pensioner

    Thanksgiving Irony;

    barry claimed that pardoning the White House Turkey was started by Pres Bush Sr, thus another " it's bush's fault " claim.
  3. toonertoo

    toonertoo Most Awesome Dog Staff Member

    PLEASE, be glad it is being referred to as a CHRISTMAS TREE. Im holding my breath.....
  4. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

    Someone is sure to cry out for a Festivus Pole !!
  5. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

    Too controversial ? Too bad !!
  6. pickup

    pickup Well-Known Member

    it's almost ironic as Bush positioning himself as a fiscal conservative and then running budget deficits that alienated him from other fiscal conservatives of his party.
  7. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

    Deal with it !!!
  8. pickup

    pickup Well-Known Member

    beautiful pic, I always like the tributes to Horus' birth.

    I'll bet you don't hear stuff like this on "focus on the family" with James Dobson. I wonder if Jay Sekulow would be aghast if he knew what he was really fighting for?
  9. pickup

    pickup Well-Known Member

    Objections to the Christmas Tree:

    In the past, there have been many objections to Christmas trees:

    The Prophet Jeremiah condemned as Pagan the ancient Middle Eastern practice of cutting down trees, bringing them into the home and decorating them. Of course, these were not really Christmas trees, because Jesus was not born until centuries later, and the use of Christmas trees was not introduced for many centuries after his birth. Apparently, in Jeremiah's time the "heathen" would cut down trees, carve or decorate them in the form of a god or goddess, and overlay it with precious metals. Some Christians feel that this Pagan practice was similar enough to our present use of Christmas trees that this passage from Jeremiah can be used to condemn both:
    Jeremiah 10:2-4: "Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not." (KJV).

    In Europe, Pagans in the past did not cut down evergreen trees, bring them into their homes and decorate them. That would have been far too destructive of nature. But during the Roman celebration of the feast of Saturnalia, Pagans did decorate their houses with clippings of evergreen shrubs. They also decorated living trees with bits of metal and replicas of their God, Bacchus. Tertullian (circa 160 - 230), an early Christian leader and a prolific writer, complained that too many fellow-Christians had copied the Pagan practice of adorning their houses with lamps and with wreathes of laurel at Christmas time. 8,9,10,11
    The English Puritans condemned a number of customs associated with Christmas, such as the use of the Yule log, holly, mistletoe, etc. Oliver Cromwell preached against "the heathen traditions" of Christmas carols, decorated trees and any joyful expression that desecrated "that sacred event." 2,4
    In America, the Pilgrim's second governor, William Bradford, a Puritan, tried hard to stamp out all "pagan mockery" at Christmas time. 4 Christmas trees were not used by Puritans in colonial times. However, if they were, they would certainly have been forbidden.
    In 1851, Pastor Henry Schwan of Cleveland OH appears to have been the person responsible for decorating the first Christmas tree in an American church. His parishioners condemned the idea as a Pagan practice; some even threatened the pastor with harm. But objections soon dissipated.
  10. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

    Merry Christmas from the Christmas Gecko
  11. Jones

    Jones fILE A GRIEVE! Staff Member

    Remember, it's not just a holiday, it's a "holy day" :wink2:
  12. pickup

    pickup Well-Known Member

    commercialism mixed with christmas? Say it ain't so.
  13. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member

    That is rather amazing. Someone will surely complain.
  14. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

    I think the gecko is very Hawaiian-ish. Maybe I should've written.....

    Mele Kalikamaka !!!

    Hawaiians will find a gecko on their wall indoors and not touch it because they'll say it kills the bugs.
  15. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

    I love all aspects of Christmas
  16. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt Obscured by Mirrors Staff Member

    That's the damm truth! He was no conservative.
  17. Jones

    Jones fILE A GRIEVE! Staff Member

    I've been e-mailing the WH daily since I got wind of this outrage!
  18. pickup

    pickup Well-Known Member

  19. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

  20. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

    No one can possibly complain about a season
    with cookies in it !!

    PS. I make hundreds of the kind in the middle(pizzelles).