Congress May Spend More On The Benghazi Panel Than On The Veterans Affairs Committee

realbrown1

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Sure I do: the president wants Billions to secure the border, and benefit the entire country and the Republicans want to throw Millions into yet another Republican Sideshow as the previous six or seven "investigations' havent given them the results they want.
This is MILLIONS of Dollars that could aid our veterans,feed hungry children,or benefit the US Citizens in any number of ways
We already spend hundreds of billions on border security. Obama wants more. He will need more than this down the road if he doesn't start deportations immediately, because this is just the tip of the iceberg if the people south of us think that Obama won't ever deport anyone.
 

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We already spend hundreds of billions on border security. Obama wants more. He will need more than this down the road if he doesn't start deportations immediately, because this is just the tip of the iceberg if the people south of us think that Obama won't ever deport anyone.


neither party wants Forced Deportations. The Republicans view illegals as cheap source of labor and the Dems view them as an asset with the Latino vote( lets not forget the Latino's are the fastest growing minority in the US )
 

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We already spend hundreds of billions on border security. Obama wants more. He will need more than this down the road if he doesn't start deportations immediately, because this is just the tip of the iceberg if the people south of us think that Obama won't ever deport anyone.

Really odd, President Obama has already deported more people in less years than BUSH did in 8 years.

How do you reconcile that vs. your statement you just made?

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Despite Obama's attempts to kill the issue it is definitely not a dead horse. He just wishes it was. And whatever happened to his promise to investigate? Along with his promise of transparency? If the administration would stop stonewalling at every step the investigation would have been concluded by now. So any expenses are on Obama for his delaying tactics.
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Did any of those embassies call the White House for help? Help that never arrived?
you need to educate yourself
Benghazi Bungle
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Claim: Various critical statements about the September 2012 terrorist attacks on the U.S. mission in Benghazi, Libya:

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FALSE: Administration officials watched the attacks unfold in real time but did nothing to intervene.

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FALSE: Requests issued by U.S. personnel for military back-up during the attacks were denied.

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FALSE: General Carter Ham was relieved of his command for attempting to provide military assistance during the Benghazi attacks.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/benghazi.asp

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FALSE: Rear Admiral Charles M. Gaouette was relieved of his command for attempting to provide military assistance during the Benghazi attacks.

Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/benghazi.asp#LBlS2iMOX8x2Si5O.99
 

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Really odd, President Obama has already deported more people in less years than BUSH did in 8 years.

How do you reconcile that vs. your statement you just made?

TOS.
Bull bleep! All Obama did was change the definition of what a deportation is. Bush administration counted a deportation as someone who had a deportation hearing. Obama is counting people stopped at the boarder and turned around. Never has that been considered a deportation until Obama.


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moreluck

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you need to educate yourself
Benghazi Bungle
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Claim: Various critical statements about the September 2012 terrorist attacks on the U.S. mission in Benghazi, Libya:

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FALSE: Administration officials watched the attacks unfold in real time but did nothing to intervene.

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FALSE: Requests issued by U.S. personnel for military back-up during the attacks were denied.

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FALSE: General Carter Ham was relieved of his command for attempting to provide military assistance during the Benghazi attacks.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/benghazi.asp

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FALSE: Rear Admiral Charles M. Gaouette was relieved of his command for attempting to provide military assistance during the Benghazi attacks.

Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/benghazi.asp#LBlS2iMOX8x2Si5O.99
Re: the 2nd one.....what about requests for help ahead of the attack.....maybe weeks ahead ???????????????????????????????????????????????
 

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Re: the 2nd one.....what about requests for help ahead of the attack.....maybe weeks ahead ???????????????????????????????????????????????
GOP Rep: I ‘Absolutely’ Voted To Cut Funding For Embassy Security

Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-UT) said today that he voted to cut funding for U.S. embassy security amid political attacks from Republicans that the Obama administration did not do enough to secure the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya that was attacked last month.


Republicans and their allies have been trying to politicize the attack — which killed four Americans, including the U.S. Ambassador to Libya — suggesting, without evidence, the Obama administration may have ignored intelligence that the attack was imminent, didn’t properly secure the Benghazi compound and is now trying to cover it up.

But hidden beneath the GOP campaign is the fact that House Republicans voted to cut nearly $300 million from the U.S. embassy security budget. When asked if he voted to cut the funds this morning on CNN, Chaffetz said, “Absolutely“:

O’BRIEN: Is it true that you voted to cut the funding for embassy security?

CHAFFETZ: Absolutely. Look, we have to make priorities and choices in this country. We have — think about this — 15,000 contractors in Iraq. We have more than 6,000 contractors, private army there for President Obama in Baghdad.

And we’re talking about can we get two dozen or so people into Libya to help protect our forces? When you’re in tough economic times, you have to make difficult choices how to prioritize this.

CNN has the clip:





The Washington Post’s Dana Milbank breaks it all down:

For fiscal 2013, the GOP-controlled House proposed spending $1.934 billion for the State Department’s Worldwide Security Protection program — well below the $2.15 billion requested by the Obama administration. House Republicans cut the administration’s request for embassy security funding by $128 million in fiscal 2011 and $331 million in fiscal 2012. (Negotiations with the Democrat-controlled Senate restored about $88 million of the administration’s request.) Last year, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton warned that Republicans’ proposed cuts to her department would be “detrimental to America’s national security” — a charge Republicans rejected.

[GOP vice presidential nominee Paul] Ryan, [Rep. Darrell] Issa and other House Republicans voted for an amendment in 2009 to cut $1.2 billion from State operations, including funds for 300 more diplomatic security positions. Under Ryan’s budget, non-defense discretionary spending, which includes State Department funding, would be slashed nearly 20 percent in 2014, which would translate to more than $400 million in additional cuts to embassy security.

“It’s also important to note,” House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) said last week, “that the Republican appropriation in Congress gave the administration $300 million less than it asked for for the State Department, including funding for security.”​
 

oldngray

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Congress had previously approved State Dept funding but drew a line at their excess spending. Plenty of money was available but was wasted on items like artwork and new furniture and overspending at high profile embassies like in Europe. It was the State Dept that refused to upgrade security. And ignored warnings and urgent requests. And who was the head of State Dept then? Oh yeah. Hillary.
 

Bringdough

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Re: the 2nd one.....what about requests for help ahead of the attack.....maybe weeks ahead ???????????????????????????????????????????????
Fact: 4 Americans were killed.
Fact: requests for for additional security denied, several times.
Fact: it was not a video that caused the attack.
Fact: Obama has a pen and a phone, embassy security was one thing he could have done on his own. How did a cut in embassy funding make it through a dem controlled senate? Sounds like Harry Reid deserves part of the blame too.


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