You are so funny, NOT.getting around a ban is nothing
curious to what u guys got to say
ill give my thoughts a lil later
cuz we all know its much harder for a company to fire a union employee for something trivial then it is for a non union employee
I don't think that the Teamsters, or any other union, promotes laziness but I do believe that some people get away with being lazy because they know that its damn near impossible for them to get fired for it. In fact, some sups don't even bother with write ups because they know that suspensions and getting them fired would simply amount to nothing more than an unpaid vacation (sometimes they are practically paid vacations if they get their jobs back with back pay) for these people. During my short decade (and counting) of employment at UPS I've seen these types of employees in three different UPS buildings that I've been in and also at two other union jobs I've had prior to UPS. So, lets just face the facts here.....unions don't promote laziness but they sure as hell don't deter it either.
think about it from my perspective
when i was 18 i worked at a CVS distribution center in indianapolis....on the shipping dock, and we worked our asses off....freight flying at you down conveyor belts, hot as hell in summer cold as in the winter....for $9.65 an hour, non union...if you were too slow, they fire you or really discipline you until you can meet the quota
of course this job was non union....if they had unionized the pay would be more and the work load would be more realistic i guarantee it
now do you get what im saying? there are workers at ups freight roadway yellow usf holland that sit on forklifts all day and make the $23.00 an hour top pay...at CVS the highest paid guy at 17 years in and made $12.25
You claimed to have drank 200 ounces of water while in the trailers. That's 12.5 gallons- are you sure you know what you are talking about?
You're kidding right? The current UPS managers either don't know what needs to be done or won't do it.I believe that if Fed Ex were to unionize, that it would be an even more formidable competitor. There are enough exUPS managers there, that they know what needs to be done.
TB
You're kidding right? The current UPS managers either don't know what needs to be done or won't do it.
I believe that unions at UPS promotes excellence up and down the chain. The unions have negotiated a wage and benefit package that the employees want and are working hard to keep. Managers have to have the productivity to be profitable with the higher costs. UPS is a profitable company, everyone from loaders to managers must be doing their jobs.
We have a non-union regional delivery company in my area. They pay about 1/2 our hourly and a much smaller benefit package. Conversations I have with their drivers, they are waaay less productive, have more accidents and I would imagine, lower profits (private company, so no way to know.)
They have drivers that routinely bring unattempted stops back. That does not happen in my building.
Several years ago, there was an attempt to organize the company. The owner said, "If a union is voted in, I will close this company." Whatever.
I suspect that if a union would have been approved, he would have increased productivity to match his increased costs. He would have also had lower turnover (currently, a cut driver waits less than 1 year for a route), lower turnover increases productivity as well.
Higher labor costs would result in raising the bar for potential employees also.
I do read about examples where managers have made horrendous mistakes in negotiating contracts and I think that the UAW is the best example of that. If there are ways for a company to improve productivity with technology, I am all for it.
I believe that if Fed Ex were to unionize, that it would be an even more formidable competitor. There are enough exUPS managers there, that they know what needs to be done.
TB
I don't think that the Teamsters, or any other union, promotes laziness but I do believe that some people get away with being lazy because they know that its damn near impossible for them to get fired for it. In fact, some sups don't even bother with write ups because they know that suspensions and getting them fired would simply amount to nothing more than an unpaid vacation (sometimes they are practically paid vacations if they get their jobs back with back pay) for these people. During my short decade (and counting) of employment at UPS I've seen these types of employees in three different UPS buildings that I've been in and also at two other union jobs I've had prior to UPS. So, lets just face the facts here.....unions don't promote laziness but they sure as hell don't deter it either.
I believe that if Fed Ex were to unionize, that it would be an even more formidable competitor. There are enough exUPS managers there, that they know what needs to be done.
You're kidding right? The current UPS managers either don't know what needs to be done or won't do it.