Does your Center make or lose money on Sat Air

[oldngray]

It is probably cheaper to ship Sat air instead of early AM for Monday. Some companies just want it first thing Monday morning and will get it Saturday and let it sit until Monday.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

It is probably cheaper to ship Sat air instead of early AM for Monday. Some companies just want it first thing Monday morning and will get it Saturday and let it sit until Monday.

In most cases, unless the part is absolutely needed for Saturday, it is still cheaper to use EAM rather than Saturday NDA.

 

[Limper]

Our Saturday air drivers aren't worth a crap. Half my Monday airs are Saturday send-agains. How can you
NI 1 a non-sig house stop?

 

[Billy Ray]

In most cases, unless the part is absolutely needed for Saturday, it is still cheaper to use EAM rather than Saturday NDA.

Wrong again.

From the UPS website:

8 lb. package shipped from Atlanta to Richmond VA
Package shipped on a Friday

NDA Saturday delivery $108.78
NDA EAM Monday delivery $123.45

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Hence the "in most cases".

TTKU

 

[Billy Ray]

Hence the "in most cases".

TTKU

KUJF

 

[Billy Ray]

Hence the "in most cases".

TTKU

It only took 1 case, chosen with random input, to prove you wrong.

 

[midnightmadman]

If someone is a "rtd/tcd" while doing satuday air, are you saying the pay rate is different then if they are a part time/(pre-loader) etc?

 

[Box Ox]

If someone is a "rtd/tcd" while doing satuday air, are you saying the pay rate is different then if they are a part time/(pre-loader) etc?

Yes, you'd be punched in as an air exception driver making whatever you're at in the 2 year air progression rate.

 

[midnightmadman]

Thanks. I know the sat. air rate is more per hour then the pre-load pay but I'm questioning if being classified as an RTD/TCD is it a different rate then it would be if non-RTD/TCD?

 

[Wally]

We waste all kinds of money. Look at all the dead weight that shows up during audit time!

 

[Dr.Brownz]

My building currently loose money delivering Sat Air do to a contract seniority issue that has come about with the adding of TCDs. All the PT Sat Air drivers signed the list to be TCD from June 1 to Jan 15. That being said they move from the PT seniority list to the FT seniority list for the time they TCD and aren't considered PT Sat Air Drivers for the time. So there is no Sat PT air drivers and they can't fill those position with more PT because the TCD will be going back to them After Jan 15. So they have to put a list up for FT drivers to sign every week to drive on Sat and the Sat Air drivers don't have enough FT seniority to make the cut. So they are paying FT drivers $51.54 hr to drive on Sat.

I had 20 stops today and it took me 4 hrs they paid me almost $10.50 a stop. That's some of the easiest $200 + dollars you can make.

Any other building have this problem.

Looks like big brown should stop playing games with TCD's and create some more jobs

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Looks like big brown should stop playing games with TCD's and create some more jobs

No kidding.
We should have had that negotiated in the contract.

 

[barnyard]

Looks like big brown should stop playing games with TCD's and create some more jobs

We have 3 TCD in my center. They work most of the time in summer, non stop at peak and the occasional Friday the rest of the year. If they were perm, they would be laid off, bumping onto the preload and local sort.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

We have 3 TCD in my center. They work most of the time in summer, non stop at peak and the occasional Friday the rest of the year. If they were perm, they would be laid off, bumping onto the preload and local sort.

Need to keep these guys working. It's really easy to get Rusty.

 

[Box Ox]

Thanks. I know the sat. air rate is more per hour then the pre-load pay but I'm questioning if being classified as an RTD/TCD is it a different rate then it would be if non-RTD/TCD?

Nope, no difference.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Need to keep these guys working. It's really easy to get Rusty.

It's like riding a bike.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

It's like riding a bike.

Not for the rookies..they preach all this safety crap but never use it. That's why they drive all of the newer trucks. They don't trust their lack of experience on the old ones.

Atleast find them some air work!

 

[midnightmadman]

Nope, no difference.

OK. From what the OP said it sounded like it was. Thanks

 

[SCV good to go sir.]

I'm sure in some areas,they do not make any money on Saturday air. But many major city areas,do pretty well.

Just the cost of doing business.

This. My center has so many fresh air drivers and so much volume on Saturdays.